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J 07-10-2012 3:05 PM

Cant Get Board Loose
 
I am a new rider of several years. I am riding the 2011 Ronix One (142). I am getting comfortable riding switch and doing some inside the wake 180s and hs w2w. However, it seems my board is glued to the water, as I cant seem to get blind 180s or surface 180s w/o face planting. I have to get air borne in order to ride switch or do some other things that I see others doing on the surface. Am I on the wrong board, or am I just not a good enough rider to break it loose?

Jmaxymek 07-10-2012 3:20 PM

There are a number of things you can to to help get the board loose. First off, you should be putting more weight on your front foot when you try to break loose, this will help reduce the amount your fins track. Secondly, you can adjust you fins. I ride the same board (142) and am riding the 0.8 Slider fins that should have came with your board. These grab the water still really well, but you can break out much easier than the 1.0 Ramp fins. Thirdly, where you are doing it can also be a factor. I found cutting really hard out on my heel side edge and then trying to break out gave me the most success.

J 07-10-2012 5:00 PM

I have considered taking them off completely. Mine is the ATR, and I think all
It came with were 1.0. I will try the front foot advice. I was riding inside the wake
last week and tried to slide around to ride switch and did a serious face plant...maybe
a conscious front foot approach will help

07-10-2012 5:57 PM

Def try to go with the .8 fins...taking them off completely especially on choppy water would be difficult to ride. I tried my watson hybrid without fins behind my boat & it was sketchy on every landing.

TheHebrewHammer 07-10-2012 6:13 PM

That board is way too sticky with Ronix's 1.0 inch fins. Ditch them ASAP!

Bumpass1 07-10-2012 6:15 PM

.8s are the way to go. I used then on my One boards up until I picked up a '12 timebomb. The smaller fins will make all of the difference in the world.

Readyaimfire 07-10-2012 6:58 PM

It's honestly probably a combination of the fins and experience. It's all about knowing the board. The best practice for this in my opinion is to spend a few minutes every set to just slash the wake. Learn your edges and how far you can push the board before it breaks loose. Then you will know how much energy it takes to pop around on a 180. Also you might need to take some of your weight off the fins when u try to flip the board around.

benjaminp 07-10-2012 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J (Post 1766268)
Mine is the ATR, and I think all it came with were 1.0

It should have come with the 0.8" BECAUSE its the ATR edition. I swapped the fins on my '08 Ibex for a buddy's 0.8" slider fins because I like the looser board, and they havent held my boat riding back in any way shape or form. If you dont like the 1", ditch them until you have enough experience to work around them (if you ever feel like putting them back on).

J 07-10-2012 8:14 PM

Thanks for all the replies...all advice is appreciated!

garythedog 07-11-2012 6:55 PM

the 0.8 fins would definitely help but i think the problem your having is where you are doing them try cutting out on your heelside edge then let off to create a bit of slack in the line then switch. it should help you be able to lean back so your not dragged by the boat causing the all so fun front edge catch

austin 07-13-2012 2:25 PM

Sometimes the board makes a difference. If your board has a pronounced spine or channels running the full length it will not spin on the surface as easily as a board that has a smoother bottom surface. The fin placement and size also makes a difference. I have two boards that are night and day different in how easy it is to do surface spins on them, so it's not all just a matter of technique.

nick_in_ssp 07-13-2012 2:29 PM

Have you tried slowing the boat down to like 15 mph then doind the surface 180's. Going alot slower will make your fins catch less, then once you have figured out how to do them then speed up some and try again.

J 08-05-2012 6:32 PM

Well I tried a different board the last couple of days, the Ronix Phoenix Project. I haven't ridden that many different boards, but reading about them and riding them is opening my eyes. The rocker on that Phoenix board is a LOT different than my One. It is a LOT looser and more forgiving than the One, and definitely has softer landings. But I did sacrifice some height in my jumps, as well as some distance. Still not sure if I would get rid of my One or not. I might try another board with a rocker somewhere between those two

Kerry 08-07-2012 6:31 AM

I know a lot of guys are saying get smaller fins which is certainly an option for you. I myself ride the 2012 one with the 1.0 fins and find the board to come loose fairly easily. Preference is preference but I think you should work on your technique a bit. I don't find the board to be that tight actually. I don't have a rough time doing blind surface spins and the like. I did learn all the slides on boards with bigger fins though like 1.2 or 1.7 so I'm somewhat used to it. Sometimes those fins really help a landing to imo. Others might disagree and like I said everyone has their preferences but you should be able to do it either on the .8 or 1.0 fins. The difference shouldn't be that much.

Houstonshark 08-07-2012 6:43 PM

The '11 and '12 One boards are completely different IMO. The '11 locks in hard witch the 1" fins which really sucks for breaking the board loose or landing off balance or with the board not fully pointing in the direction you are going. The .8" make a dramatic difference and are a must IMO.

I still have the '11 but haven't ridden it in awhile. I've had the '12 Time Bomb all season and never even considered putting the .8" fins on it. It seems to lock in well when you want to lock it in but can break it loose with the same or less effort than the '11.

Bumpass1 08-07-2012 8:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houstonshark (Post 1774237)
The '11 and '12 One boards are completely different IMO. The '11 locks in hard witch the 1" fins which really sucks for breaking the board loose or landing off balance or with the board not fully pointing in the direction you are going. The .8" make a dramatic difference and are a must IMO.

I still have the '11 but haven't ridden it in awhile. I've had the '12 Time Bomb all season and never even considered putting the .8" fins on it. It seems to lock in well when you want to lock it in but can break it loose with the same or less effort than the '11.

I totally agree. The '12 Ones are completely different from the '11's. Different shapes all together. All of the complaints on the 09-11 models have been addressed and answered in the '12 editions. I also ride a Timebomb and it is so much different than the other one boards that I have (in a good way).

nickdakoolkat 08-08-2012 9:27 PM

Try slowing the boat down for an bit just to get the feel of butterslides and 180s but without the pain of face planting.

joeshmoe 08-09-2012 6:47 AM

the one
 
Its not you, its the board, why sacrifice height and distance because you cant do surface 180's with 1" fins? just put the smaller fins on and you should get the same pop and distance as long as your technique is good on your approach, do not slow your boat down.

rplogue7 08-09-2012 6:55 AM

What I like to do is pump forward, then pull backward to do surface 180s, but when you land keep your weight back. The slider fins will definitely help you to ride out with an under rotated spin.

Bumpass1 08-09-2012 8:41 AM

I have a set of .8 sliders i will give you if you want!!

J 08-09-2012 2:48 PM

Thanks for all the responses. I agree that the '12 One is MUCH different board than mine. You can look at pics online and see that the two boards have a different rocker design and edge. I am going to try out a Ronix Viva or Bill next.....just to get a feel for other boards. Thanks for the offer Jamie, I can grab a set at my pro shop this weekend.

joeshmoe 08-09-2012 5:53 PM

Jamie I still need a set of .8 fins how much to ship them to ohio?

Bumpass1 08-10-2012 3:15 AM

P.M. Me and I will send them out


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