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tyler97217 07-02-2012 7:16 AM

Supra has a new model???
 
Anyone know much about it? I have heard something was coming, but they are keeping it tight lipped and I don't know that anyone really knows anything about it. Rick Tinker posted on the Supra forum that is is coming out on July 22nd and will be totally different than anything Supra has done.....
As some would say. "it is a game changer!"....... ha ha.... I really don't know anything about it, but it has my interest.....

patrick232 07-02-2012 7:41 AM

There is also something new from Moomba on July 24th per Rick's posting on Moomba forum. I would like to see a new LSV from Moomba, current hull is from 2006.

ripr 07-02-2012 9:00 AM

It has my interest, too. I love seeing all these companies doing their part to push innovation and keep things fresh.

What I KNOW:

-It will be pulling Worlds in August
-It has been in R&D for a considerable amount of time
-It was designed from the wake forward with considerable amount of collaboration between the riders and designers. (Kinda goes without saying)



Now, the fun part: Here's my GUESS:

-It will have a modified/open/picklefork/blunt nose....some type of 'non traditional' bow.
-I think it will be 22.5-23.5' long....replacement for the current 22SSV? I think so.
-Snap out carpet
-Use of sub floor ballast AND bags
-The construction process will be different from what is currently in place.

Here's my HOPE:

-It will usher in a new model line with modified bow and more edgy styling. But still offer the regular bow 'classic', Supra boats. Like the G series will be doing for CC.
-A 21' or less model will follow (PLEASE! some of us are dealing with length restricitons! haha)
-Pricing will remain in the neighborhood of where they are now.

Again, I have no more information than any of you, this is just my guess.

As far as the new Moomba model, I have no idea. But I like the idea of a smaller Mojo'ish boat.

Dealer Meeting is coming up, so hopefully we'll see something soon.

FunkyBunch 07-02-2012 9:08 AM

I know about the same as ripr, I have been talking with my dealer every time I am in for service "which is often lately" about this replacement for the 22ssv. I hope they have been moving in the same direction as Nautique we shall see.

polarbill 07-02-2012 9:28 AM

I like the idea of under the floor ballast with sort of plug and play option. It seems they could have 300's in each rear corner plus 500-600 up front that is all under the floor. That would be more then enough for most buyers. THen the plug and play bags can be added for all the wake snobs and surfers out there. If they keep the playpen seating or a variation of it they will be able to hide a lot in the front and I am sure the normal 750's or so in the rear.

It seems like Supra could work on their hull design. The same basic running surface has been around for a while it by all accounts their wakes have been finicky and steep. Also, you never hear supra mentioned when talking about great surf wakes. They have had the hull design for ever where the front half/entry is a really deep V and then abotu half way back the hull abrubtly changes to a flatter hull design. It will be interesting to see if they go to a deep V all the way back like MB, Sanger, Centuerion/Tige or go with a gradual change to a somewhat rounded hull at the transom like Malibu and Mastercraft.

I love seeing all the different new stuff out there.

jeff_mn 07-02-2012 9:32 AM

Any non-traditional bow should look like the Supreme. Flat scoop front boat. Looks better than all of this pickle fork and tri-hull looking trash.

slax303 07-02-2012 10:28 AM

Both the new Moomba and the new Supra are going to have big changes, and I think SC fans will be very pleased. The Supra is completely different from their norm.

07-02-2012 7:27 PM

Really looking forward to seeing both of these new boats. Gonna be a long few weeks until July 22

stang_killa_ss 07-02-2012 7:31 PM

man all the manufactures and our sport are REALLY stepping up this year!

wakeboardern1 07-03-2012 4:18 PM

Brett,

While I agree that the wake on a Supra can be finicky as hell, when you hit that sweet spot for how to weight it, both for boarding and surfing, you can get a killer wake. Well, at least from the old 24V. Not sure about others. I just know that the way we weight my boat gives it a wake with a long transition to a nice peak at the top that boots you straight up if you want, but will let you charge into the flats easily as well. Granted, we also put about 4k in weight in the thing, which helps.

On topic, I can't wait to see this new boat though. I doubt it will act as a replacement though. It would seem like a mistake to replace their 22 footer with something else, especially since it had one of their better wakes.

slax303 07-03-2012 5:23 PM

It won't be a replacement , just a brand new boat

hunter660 07-03-2012 6:12 PM

Sounds like Shane Stillman is having a HUGE impact on the wake industry to me.

ixfe 07-03-2012 9:35 PM

Shane is the man! No doubt his fingerprints will be all over this new creation. Can't wait to see it.

fman 07-03-2012 10:07 PM

When I sold my '08 22SSV I did NOT buy another 22 SSV for the following reasons:

- Poor wake under 23 MPH, always washed out on port side, really horrible at 18-19 mph. Wake is also super steep with little transition. My old knees and back did not care for this...
- No sub floor ballast with hard tanks and gauges
- Carpet in ski lockers and storage areas
- Sloped bow, always would take on water when bags filled up, sits low in water
-Grab rails on bow that are stout, the 21V front bow grab rails looks really good
-Wanted a warming tray above the engine
- No snap out carpet

I will be pumped for Skiers Choice if they upgraded the 22SSV with a new hull design and deck and added the above features I was looking for. I was bummed I did not purchase another one, the boat itself I really enjoyed.... my current boat meets all the above requirements I had.

Will be great to see what they have coming up...

jaybee 07-04-2012 3:23 PM

Not sure of the 22SSv but I rode Austin Hair's 2011 242 worlds a couple weeks ago and it was slammed and the wake was MONEY. Even at 22 mph. I was seriously shocked how a boat with so much weight (think it was 3000 over stock) could produce such a clean wake at 22 MPH. I actually progressed for the first time in a year and was able to add a grab to my 3 with so much time in the air.

I know exactly what you are saying though. I have a 2009 X2 and when you load it up you have to go at least 23 MPH depending on how many people are in the boat and I feel like 23 in that boat is like 25 on any other boat.

ripr 07-10-2012 10:37 AM

I have some new information....and all it really told me is Diggs will get one! Haha

12 days and we'll all be impressed.

tyler97217 07-10-2012 11:02 AM

...........boooo..... I was getting ready to email or message you and see if you would tell me the details....
You might be right though..... Will see what it is all about come 12 days. I really dig my 21V, so we will see.

pickle311 07-10-2012 1:55 PM

I'm hoping Moomba is updating the XLV. I think the LSV is fine and doesn't need an update yet. The XLV has never been changed from what I understand.

mark197 07-10-2012 2:40 PM

Word on the street is that the XLV is discontinued and the Mojo took its place. Also that the new boat will be a variation of the LSV.

chrisbucklin 07-11-2012 3:06 AM

I'm ordering the 242 worlds for 2013, wonder of this new one will b better??

07-11-2012 10:24 AM

I would wait on ordering that 242 until you see the new one after it's released on the 22nd. Just so you don't feel like you missed out ha.

jperkinsttu 07-11-2012 11:02 AM

I mean this thread should be longer than the G23 and Xstar by the 22nd haha. Better wake at 20-22 mph is my only complaint. Everything else I love already. Stoked to see what they bring out

FunkyBunch 07-11-2012 11:30 AM

^^^^ With weight Jarrod

07-11-2012 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jperkinsttu (Post 1766479)
I mean this thread should be longer than the G23 and Xstar by the 22nd haha. Better wake at 20-22 mph is my only complaint. Everything else I love already. Stoked to see what they bring out

SC is being so secretive it's hard for anybody to really know what it is haha. I'm betting it's gonna be sick though!

norwalkbeast 07-11-2012 1:47 PM

Watch this boat blow away the New X-star and G23 haha that would be impressive!! But I bet it will be pretty sick either way!

tyler97217 07-11-2012 8:12 PM

ohhh... boy... found some wake pics... Still can't get anyone to actually give me pics of the boat... Apparently these were from the photo shoot. Someone had to be on the lake and actually get a photo of the boat??????
Pics of the wake look good. Look like good steep Supra wake with a boot! Big too!
I have no idea speed, weight, rope length.....

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...S/IMG_1176.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...S/IMG_1206.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...S/IMG_1209.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...S/IMG_1211.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...S/IMG_1210.jpg

07-11-2012 8:21 PM

Holy crap that wake looks sick! Clean on both sides and looks freaking massive too.

ripr 07-11-2012 8:23 PM

Uuhhhh....booter.

xstarrider 07-11-2012 8:37 PM

Baaaaaaaam!

Hopefully it is beeing offered in green like that south side donk u just saw. Hahaha

ralph 07-11-2012 9:34 PM

Dang son, those grits look tasty.

ripr 07-12-2012 5:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xstarrider (Post 1766741)
Baaaaaaaam!

Hopefully it is beeing offered in green like that south side donk u just saw. Hahaha

haha..yeah, that thing was rediculous. But I still want one.

mark197 07-12-2012 6:07 AM

Looks awesome:eek: SC I can't wait to see the complete boat!

Dmac420sj 07-12-2012 9:50 AM

I'm not trying to dirty Mac thE supra but that wake doesn't look huge to me. Seriously my v210 is really comparable to that with #2100 lbs and its a 2003!

Dmac420sj 07-12-2012 9:51 AM

Actually the first pic does look big but the others not so much

07-12-2012 10:18 AM

The first looks big because you have a reference point with the rider being next to it. Since he's in the air in the others you don't.

tyler97217 07-12-2012 10:54 AM

Yeah pretty hard to tell from pics, but it definitely looks big and from what everyone has said it is big. You never really know until you see it, but the pics are definitely a good start and the reference in the first pic and second pic surely support it being big.....

spencerwm 07-12-2012 11:05 AM

Shane knows what he is doing. No doubt in my mind that the Supra wake will be better than ever.

ixfe 07-12-2012 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spencerwm (Post 1766885)
Shane knows what he is doing. No doubt in my mind that the Supra wake will be better than ever.

What ^^HE^^ said...

slax303 07-12-2012 7:44 PM

The Supra looks absolutely sick, and the wake is still clean down to 17-18mph (For Travis, who didn't like that about his 22V). Supra is definitely making the right changes, and stepping up their game in a big way

loudontn 07-12-2012 9:49 PM

Sick!

jperkinsttu 07-13-2012 3:28 AM

I'm guessing price tag will get a bump as well?

boomshot 07-13-2012 5:22 AM

It looks like the wake of a Ski Nautique 2001.
Good or bad, it does. Same shape, same size.
Sorry if this is hard to hear.

slax303 07-13-2012 7:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomshot (Post 1767104)
It looks like the wake of a Ski Nautique 2001.
Good or bad, it does. Same shape, same size.
Sorry if this is hard to hear.

Lol your bias is ridiculous...

2001 with 1500lbs
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/m...921/421419.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...S/IMG_1176.jpg

Do those 2 look like the same size to you?

fman 07-13-2012 7:03 AM

Those pics of the wake look like my vlx wake, which imo, is pretty damn hard to beat. So user friendly for all level of riders at different speeds...

I am looking forward to see what skiers choice has come up with...

wolfe_drew 07-13-2012 7:37 AM

There is a new thread on the redesigned LSV that has some info on what is in storew for the Moomba line.

There is a lot of good speculation on the new Supra in this thread. :)

Diggs - oh, man! You and I may have to arm wrestle for the 1st one. Thru some extremely covert actions, I have seen a few pics and I am EXTREMELY happy that SC has Stillman on the payroll.

mark197 07-13-2012 8:29 AM

From the Moomba Forum.

http://www.moomba.com/msgboard/attac...6&d=1342180128

and Rick T

Ok..to help out alittle here - on the NEW LSV. 1. All Glass Floors with Snap out carpet. Storage areas - non carpeted 2. 1,800# ballast is standard(Combo of Tank and Bags). 3. Surf+ platform is standard.

tyler97217 07-13-2012 9:17 AM

boomshot - ha ha... Nautique 2001......... I love how you always try to rain on parades..... It's alright some of your posts are still funny.

Drew - It is ok. I will take the second one:rolleyes:

If all those upgrades are on the Moomba, I would think it is safe to say that will be coming with the Supra and then some????????

ripr 07-13-2012 9:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boomshot (Post 1767104)
It looks like the wake of a Ski Nautique 2001.
Good or bad, it does. Same shape, same size.
Sorry if this is hard to hear.


lol...I don't know about a 2001, but it certainly made me remember this pic!

Just for fun.

lftaylor 07-13-2012 1:30 PM

Yeah Ryan Lewis and Supra hit a home run with this one. I got to ride this back in January and it was awesome when it was just a boat with plywood seats. I think everyone will be very happy. The wake is definitely big AND clean.

07-13-2012 1:36 PM

Hey Taylor! Great article on you that I saw on Facebook. Hope you're having a great year on the tour!

Dmac420sj 07-13-2012 1:40 PM

Dude what kind of wake is that!!!!^^^^

Dmac420sj 07-13-2012 1:40 PM

Looks like a old s hooo launch ramp of water hahaha hell ya!!

Dmac420sj 07-13-2012 1:41 PM

Bump this I'm fixed to drink me some beer!

Raf1985 07-13-2012 1:46 PM

Is that a wake or a surf wave? And is that guy a kid or midget?

Dmac420sj 07-13-2012 1:47 PM

Dude I'd ride that wake! It makes me super happy!

norcalrider 07-13-2012 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmac420sj (Post 1767286)
Dude what kind of wake is that!!!!^^^^

Photoshop edition of a Sanger V210...

Dmac420sj 07-13-2012 2:31 PM

Does resemble my wake with beer goggles! Lol

07-13-2012 7:11 PM

Might want to check Supra's facebook, looks like they just released some cool stuff about the new boat

ripr 07-13-2012 8:18 PM

The wake above is just an old photoshopped wake that floated around here years ago.......props to whoever did that photoshop!

ripr 07-13-2012 8:35 PM

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tyler97217 07-13-2012 10:04 PM

Definitely a change up front......... No Z5???? Shelf on the back of some sort??

monroeyd 07-13-2012 10:33 PM

I like what I can see.

Bill_Dad 07-14-2012 1:20 PM

wake
 
hi,

the wake looks clean and great, hey supra have come up with a nice boat and from what ive heard from a couple of guys who rode behind the boat the wake is awesome, great to see all these boat companies pushing the sport with new boats and designs.

ralph 07-14-2012 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_Dad (Post 1767503)
hi,

the wake looks clean and great, hey supra have come up with a nice boat and from what ive heard from a couple of guys who rode behind the boat the wake is awesome, great to see all these boat companies pushing the sport with new boats and designs.

Steady on bill, we all know you are biassed because your son is sponsored by ...... Hey wait a minute. :)

simplej 07-14-2012 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralph (Post 1767520)
Steady on bill, we all know you are biassed because your son is sponsored by ...... Hey wait a minute. :)

Huh! What!! Are you inferring Harley is on supra??

ralph 07-14-2012 7:25 PM

Whoops, didn't mean to start a rumor. Just saying when bill says anything about mc its discounted because his son is sponsored.

lionel 07-15-2012 12:05 AM

I've heard good things about this boat!

jefft 07-15-2012 4:27 AM

new supra
 
Is that Cory Teunissen behind that awesome boat

rickt 07-15-2012 6:32 AM

Team T
 
Jeff,
Cory and Brad were killing it!

norwalkbeast 07-15-2012 5:06 PM

I rode in Dave briscoes class this last week and he said that the boat is sick!! I can't wait to see it!!

ripr 07-16-2012 8:54 AM

Diggs- There will be a Z5 option for the SBend tower for 2013.

Bumpass1 07-17-2012 4:53 PM

Saw this on facebook.

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07-17-2012 6:11 PM

The 22nd can't come soon enough

ripr 07-17-2012 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TN22 (Post 1768559)
The 22nd can't come soon enough

I hear that!

Anyone on here going to the reveal?

tyler97217 07-18-2012 6:39 AM

My dealer is going. Hopefully I will get some cell phone shots of it and I will post them as I get them (unless it is during the day and I am on the water).

07-18-2012 7:37 AM

I kinda hope they don't post cell phone pics since they never do the boats justice.

ripr 07-18-2012 7:54 AM

The reveal will be at 7pm on Sunday night. If you guys don't want me to post pics on here from the reveal, I won't. But, I should be able to get some good pics with my 4S. I'll probably put some out on Facebook though.

Monday I should get a chance to get out on the boat, so I should be able to get some wakeshots and first hand feedback.

polarbill 07-18-2012 7:59 AM

I got to talk on the phone with Shane a couple days ago about something else but he mentioned the new boat. He didn't give me any specifics but said it isn't going to be tradiotional like the current supra's. He said it is around 22' and best of all isn't going to be a huge battleship like the G23 or some of the newer boats. It is going to still look like a ski/wakeboard boat and not a bloated runabout with a tower. I really can't wait to see this boat and the new LSV. For those who haven't gotten the chance I will tell you that Shane is a great guy to chat with. I have a feeling Skier's Choice is going to make some major waves with him there, especially if they can stay in/close to their price range now since the Supra's are all priced less then mastercraft, malibu, nautique, centurion and tige.

mark197 07-18-2012 8:32 AM

That sounds awesome Brett, all of these new boats look like whales, LOL.

NAW definitely post pictures if you get them.

hunter660 07-18-2012 8:37 AM

I talked on the from with Shane while he was still at MB. Super nice guy and spent the time to answer all my questions and even listen to my suggestions, some of which got made.


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