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BuckleNation 06-05-2012 1:51 PM

Help getting more height on my Wake to Wake

I have only been wakeboarding since April 11th of this year so be kind. All my learning so far has come from you tube videos. I am really wanting to know what I need to do to get my pop into the air. I am riding at 20.4 MPH. and my rope has two links let out. First jump is kind of sad.... sorry. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

fly135 06-05-2012 2:13 PM

Stand tall when you hit the wake. 20.4 is a bit slow. You might try speeding up a bit. When you do, you'll most likely need to let the rope out some.

ralph 06-05-2012 2:14 PM

Learn a progressive edge: as you cut into the wake in your head label how hard you are cutting with a number from 1 to 5, 1 easy 5 hard. You should be cutting a 1 as you turn in, a 5 at the crest of the wake. As you get comfortable with the tech a good drill is to reduce how far you cut out and see what the shortest approach is and still go wake to wake. A short aggressive approach which cuts up the wake translates to high wake to wake pop.

wakebrdjay 06-05-2012 2:23 PM

Your legs are bent at the top of the wake,therefore the energy from the wake is being absorbed by your legs like a shock absorber.Try this next time out,start about 3~5feet from the wake and cut into it with your legs straight and stiff and stay that way all the way through the crest of the wake and you will see that even with that short approach you will get a nice pop off the wake.Just search for how to wakeboard videos on the web,there are plenty of vids out there that show this.Good luck!

the_fish 06-05-2012 2:26 PM


the_fish 06-05-2012 2:28 PM

If you have the funds available, sign up for LearnWake.com. anytime I am having trouble with a trick I post a video of my issue over there and Kyle Schmidt will critique it for you. Definitely worth the $10 a month.

BuckleNation 06-05-2012 4:18 PM

Thanks that is all great information and a great video!!

BuckleNation 06-05-2012 4:23 PM

Just watched my video again. The comment about absorbing the wake makes so much sense. I can even see it in my knees. thanks for all the comments. I will be back on the water tomorrow after work, this gives me a great starting point for what I need to work on.

cwb4me 06-05-2012 5:11 PM

The technique involves tightening your quads and glutes. Also pushing your chest up to the sky.By tightening your quads you straighten your legs out,by tightening your glutes you are pushing your hips forward and belly forward and by pushing your chest to the sky you are mimicking jumping on a trampoline.You get the best reaction with a stiff body to resist the force of the wake pushing you up.Your edge increases your force against the water.You want that maximum force going through the wake.SO approach easy and increase edge in the trough and through the wake.Good Luck!

joeshmoe 06-06-2012 8:07 AM

need more
Thomas, also pull that bar hard into your hips, you will definitely get more height, because your arms are almost completely extended right when you come off the wake-losing a lot of energy there!

Kerry 06-06-2012 11:26 AM

I would not speed the boat up. 20.4 is plenty fast for someone new. Not to mention some boats' perfect pass isn't calibrated right and 20.4 could be 22 or something. Also make sure to use the shortest rope you can. Preferably 60' or less. This makes clearing the wake nice and easy too. Everyone's tips sound pretty good. I certainly agree with Darren as far as counting from 1 to 5 in terms of edging harder and harder as you close in on the wake. Keep that handle lower and close to your hips too. Try not going out so far to edge in. With a 60' rope all you need is a hard edge for 4 ft and you can clear that wake with a good pop. Not going out as far makes you edge harder.

A good way to think about this is: A short hard progressive edge will pop you higher than a long wide approach with hardly any edging.

BuckleNation 06-06-2012 12:31 PM

Thanks everyone!

FunkyBunch 06-06-2012 1:04 PM

Kerry I agree with almost everything you said.


A short hard progressive edge will pop you higher than a long wide approach with hardly any edging.
However this is in direct contradiction to LearnWake Jump Variations video. With the right technique you can get the same pop up with a slow wide approach with less line tension than the short approach.

boardjnky4 06-06-2012 1:11 PM

The problem for us noobs with a short approach and hard legs is that the leg strength needs to be built up. It can also be intimidating to put that much leg into it. Lastly, you don't get much time to setup for the jump. Takes time to get there, but as learn wake stated, you need to be able to do all variations and not just one way.

My 2 cents

Kerry 06-06-2012 2:58 PM


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