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da_moose 01-11-2012 9:23 PM

Police Policing the Police ,what here don't make sense???
 
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Police Policing the Police ,what here don't make sense???Who do you go to when the Police refuse to do there job???Remember about a year and half ago,my Surfshop got Broken into by my new neighbors,AND I COUGHED THEM DOING IT,Called the police because that's there job,but the Police told me that's a Civil Matter ,NOT A CRIME???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Shooter 01-11-2012 10:45 PM

I'm just going to guess that there is more to this story. I don't understand what the picture are of. Is that your "surfshop"?

da_moose 01-12-2012 12:43 AM

Your right McGavin,there is more to this story ,,, But your neighbors ,NO MATTER WHAT THE STORY IS ,can't Break the lock off you place and distroy your place.

Those are picture of what I found to be my shop ,,,Bro that was 35 years of my life

wake77 01-12-2012 4:09 AM

Was there a rent dispute or something? Looks like they evicted you.

da_moose 01-12-2012 7:20 AM

NO MATTER WHAT THE STORY IS, neighbors
can't Break the lock off you place and distroy it,,,and the Police did nothing

psudy 01-12-2012 8:43 AM

If the Neighbors own the building, and you have not paid rent, or complied with an evicition notice, they most certainly can. They can also sell your stuff for back rent after certain waiting periods.

pesos 01-12-2012 8:51 AM

"NO MATTER WHAT THE STORY IS"

So... what's the story?

hco 01-12-2012 8:53 AM

Would you actually want to read,,,,,,,,IT?????????

da_moose 01-14-2012 8:02 PM

OH YOU WOULD READ IT

So who do you go to when the police don't do there job ???

Been to I.A ,D.A. won't prosecute intill the police send a Report and thay refuse to let the D.A. do there job.

D.A. I've talk to said thay would prosecute this ,but the police refuse to send a Report to them ,and the Chief ass. call me Friday and told me the Chief will not talk to me about this.

I don't care what you think about me or my stuff ,I'm still a "AN AMERICAN" AND I HAVE RIGHT'S

da_moose 01-14-2012 8:11 PM

Hey Paul if the neighbor own the building that would make them the landlord ,and if thay didn't have the right paper's to do that ,ONLY THE SHERIFF ,can break a lock of your door and do that ,,ONLY AFTER THE PAPER WORK.

wake77 01-14-2012 9:42 PM

I think you should "Occupy" the police station.

816 01-14-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by da_moose (Post 1725836)
Hey Paul if the neighbor own the building that would make them the landlord ,and if thay didn't have the right paper's to do that ,ONLY THE SHERIFF ,can break a lock of your door and do that ,,ONLY AFTER THE PAPER WORK.

The landlord still has to make monthly mortgage payments even if the tenants don't pay.
The bank does not care if ("the landlord")lost his wallet, had checks stolen, car broke down, lost his job, has new baby, etc. etc...
Basically in the words of Henry Hill from the movie Goodfellas "F***YOU PAY ME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ydqjqZ_3oc
They are not your mom or dad and should not be responsible for keeping a roof over your head.

polarbill 01-15-2012 9:58 AM

I would like to hear some facts on this. So, you were renting/leasing space to make your surfboards? You had a signed lease I am assuming? You quit paying your lease payments? The landlord broke a lock on his building and removed your stuff? And you are mad?

Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for you if that is how it happened. If you missed one payment or something then it seems extreme but still, you didn't uphold your end of the bargain. If you don't make payments you are STEALING from you landlord.

Shooter 01-15-2012 10:35 AM

Da Moose...You are in Ca. and I will educate you on California Law

459 PC- Burglary.."entering a structure with the intent to commit a felony (or theft) once inside".

211 PC- Robbery.."Taking property by force or fear"

I have limited information regarding your situation, but criminal law does not apply. This sounds like a landlord & tenant dispute. You do have renters rights and your rights have been violated if they did not complete the legal eviction process. That being said, police have better things to do than worry about "civil" disputes. You can take them civil court if those rights have been violated. I'm sure this is what the police have already told you and you are just unhappy with the truth.

da_moose 01-15-2012 9:53 PM

My rent was paid 2 months in advance
had electric in my name
was there 6 months
bottom line thay where just new neighbors
and the clowns had a T.R.O. against me ???
T.R.O's are not for breaking into your neighbors place .
AND I COUGHT THEM IN THE ACT AND CALL THE POLICE ,LIKE YOU SOULD, WHEN THERE A CRIME BEING MADE
any more ??? I've been renting over 30 years ,I know the laws

wake77 01-16-2012 8:04 AM

If the police aren't helping, why not hire an attorney and sue them and the entire city for violating your rights as a REAL AMERICAN HERO?

lizzyb 01-16-2012 9:25 AM

is this a joke?

95sn 01-16-2012 11:38 AM

Hey Moose, I heard you on the radio on Bill Handles show, Handle on the Law over the weekend.... wasnt much help either was he. Good Luck.

wake77 01-16-2012 12:49 PM

^I would have loved to hear what Bill said about the case.

ottog1979 01-16-2012 1:16 PM

See about 49:30
http://www.kfiam640.com/player/index...m_name=podcast

Shooter 01-16-2012 5:12 PM

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^^^^ great find Ottog! Is "Da Moose" really "The Dude"?

da_moose 01-16-2012 8:46 PM

Ottog ,YOU DA FICKIN MAN... You get Da New "Classic "No~J Walk'N " shirt (E~mail me your info and size)
you go to 49;30 is when the story starts. Add the radio story to the pictures I posted ,,,, AND YOU TELL ME
I never heard what he said after I was cut off

jeff359 01-17-2012 6:44 AM

Puff, puff, pass!

Please remember to include all three steps. Not passing, and continuing to puff, will lead to paranoia and incoherent ramblings.

psudy 01-17-2012 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by da_moose (Post 1725836)
Hey Paul if the neighbor own the building that would make them the landlord ,and if thay didn't have the right paper's to do that ,ONLY THE SHERIFF ,can break a lock of your door and do that ,,ONLY AFTER THE PAPER WORK.

I simply don't understand a word you are trying to say.

bigdtx 01-17-2012 11:19 AM

You're gonna have to hire a lawyer.

psudy 01-17-2012 11:20 AM

Or at least an interpreter.

stanfield 01-17-2012 11:57 AM

Looks like a nice place you had going there.

xstarrider 01-17-2012 1:16 PM

Has to be way more to the story.........

But as mentioned you were not robbed, you were not burglarized, at the very most you have tresspassing, and that is marginal depending on whether they own the property that you rent.

By caught...... how did you catch them? Video? In the act and held them till police arrived? Saw someone you recognized?

Situations regarding rental property, evictions, rights to rentals are often of no police matter. They are covered by landlord tenant laws. Evictions are a touchy subject because in most causes the sheriff's office is the one enforcing them.......however they are acting as officers of the court, hence why county sheriffs always do them and not local police. When people just up and throw all their tenants stuff out of their property it is not criminal, its a civil violation with civil recourse if there even is any violation at all.

This is obviuosly a strange situation and tons of important details are missing.....there is a history here for sure.......However I would expect nothing less, but everyone to blame the police for their misfortunes and dealings. It is always their fault when they are not there to prevent it, can't do anything when no laws were legally broken, and actually know the elements needed to prove a crime was comitted. He said she said is not enough, there has to be more.

Again I know nothing to the details of this case, besides the next to the zero info you claim that blames the police, but this appears to be a case of baby's momma's drama in the building realm and the county SO believes so as well. In my carrer the one that thinks everyone is against them is usually the offender.

wake77 01-17-2012 6:41 PM

Hasn't this case been going on for awhile now?

da_moose 01-17-2012 8:21 PM

jeff ,I love you puff ,puff passer's,,, I puff .puff ,pass ,Because im a Genius ,so I can bring myself down to your level ,OK,Mr. afraid to step up

pesos 01-17-2012 10:43 PM

"They should sue YOU for being stupid" - love Handle lolz.

Is that really Moose? He is putting real sentences together consistently.

jon4pres 01-17-2012 11:12 PM

The biggest thing that I don't understand is why you are mad at the police. The police would do something if you had a legitimate claim. Get a lawyer and see if you have some kind of claim.

As a landlord. I have dealt with my share of terrible tenants and you share all of the qualities with them.

Move on with your life. Learn a lesson and find a landlord and neighbors that will treat you fairly.

Most importantly see if you can sit in on a 4th grade spelling and grammar class so that people can understand what you are trying to say.

newty 01-18-2012 7:42 AM

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Most importantly see if you can sit in on a 4th grade spelling and grammar class so that people can understand what you are trying to say.
LMAO... You mean there is an uneducated pot smoking surfboard shaper with financial trouble?!? NO WAY!

I would love to hear "The rest of the story" narrated by Paul Harvey.

01-18-2012 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jon4pres (Post 1726379)
The biggest thing that I don't understand is why you are mad at the police. The police would do something if you had a legitimate claim. Get a lawyer and see if you have some kind of claim.

As a landlord. I have dealt with my share of terrible tenants and you share all of the qualities with them.

Move on with your life. Learn a lesson and find a landlord and neighbors that will treat you fairly.

Most importantly see if you can sit in on a 4th grade spelling and grammar class so that people can understand what you are trying to say.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ew2hL52aMn...ettleBlack.jpg

Your sentence structure doesn't exactly scream Ivy League education either...

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As a landlord.
He can't help it if he is a product of the California babysitting system, I mean education system.

da_moose 01-18-2012 9:39 AM

sam , you make that up all by yourself ?(YOU RIPPED SOMEONE ELSE OFF) thats funnnnny stuff ,, Sam what's your web site ?? got one ??? whats the BIGGEST THING LIFE YOU EVER TRYED??? WAKEBOARDING ??? I INVENTED THAT...
sam ,you wish you knew,just 1% of what I know .Go build a Wakeboard factory and the tell the World how SMART you r.Get back to me with that Sir,as soon as you can?
You know, sometime i mix thing up on purpose ,,,just so you kan think,,, for just 5 sec. your a BIG SHOT ,,,, Must suck being a nobody

01-18-2012 9:53 AM

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Originally Posted by da_moose (Post 1726427)
sam , you make that up all by yourself ?(YOU RIPPED SOMEONE ELSE OFF) thats funnnnny stuff ,, Sam what's your web site ?? got one ??? whats the BIGGEST THING LIFE YOU EVER TRYED??? WAKEBOARDING ??? I INVENTED THAT...
sam ,you wish you knew,just 1% of what I know .Go build a Wakeboard factory and the tell the World how SMART you r.Get back to me with that Sir,as soon as you can?
You know, sometime i mix thing up on purpose ,,,just so you kan think,,, for just 5 sec. your a BIG SHOT ,,,, Must suck being a nobody

LOL, now that is funny... I was actually standing up for the guy and he attacks me...

Sorry man...

newty 01-18-2012 9:57 AM

WOW, speaking of websites, check out DA MOOSES site. http://www.moosewakeboards.com/

Moose, you do your own web design?

I think I just had a seizure.

Sam, I think he's confused.:D

01-18-2012 10:17 AM

I really like his website. I never Ryan Byerly even existed...

brett33 01-18-2012 10:49 AM

This is seriously hysterical. So is Da Moose's website...

I met Ryan Byerly a few months ago actually, chillen on the beach in Mexico with a Modelo. He is teaching for some guys with a wakeboard club down there called Wake Dogz. Pretty sick group of guys actually. So if you're on vacation in Cancun and want to ride, hit them up!

Here's a link to their page.

http://wakedogz.com/about

newty 01-18-2012 11:33 AM

Good to know, we hit up Cancun every year.

jeff359 01-18-2012 1:10 PM

Holy shiz, I just smoked a bowl and all this suddenly made sense

psudy 01-18-2012 2:54 PM

You guys have got to click on the "moose wakeboards" link in his site. lol.

da_moose 01-19-2012 12:50 PM

I don't care what anybody thinks of my backyard site.



I'm an AMERICAN and have every right to live my dream ,,, no matter what people think of me or what I do. I had 5 to 6 people conspire to shut my life down,,, IF THERE ONE PERSON WHO THINKS THAT WORKED ,your wrong



I know every time I post up the Hater's come to play ,because the bigest thing i do thats messed, it I mex a letter up or 2.



Life's number one Rule is "DON'T MESS WITH A MAN'S TOOLS" never.

If you Read again or lesson to the pod cast ,A landlord has never been mentioned,It was the new Weird neighbors (Ever had a bad neighbor?) and I caught them and the Police Refuse to send a Report to the D.A.???And back to the First and MOST IMPORTANT ?Who do you go to when the Police Refuse to do the job?.......sometime's I do puff puff ,but I don't pass that my Med.,,, 28 years ago a Drunk drive jumped the center Divider and hit me ,so some time my body hurts ,,O K

psudy 01-19-2012 1:12 PM

Why is all of your stuff in the photos outside? I assume by your post that your neighbor is NOT your landlord? If that is the case then it is theft. Get a lawyer.

01-19-2012 1:33 PM

First, life's number one rule is, ""Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

If you would stop irrationally attacking people and present your discussion in a somewhat clear, concise, and understandable manner you would get a better response on here. Personally, I think your website is pretty cool, as well, as your history in various water related sports. I have read the original post and listened to the Bill Handel audio clip and I still can't figure out what happened. I am not "hating on you" or anything like that, I really don't understand what happened. I doubt anyone on here wants to shut your life down. Heck, I have probably been attacked in the non-wakeboarding section than anyone else and I seriously doubt that anyone means me any ill will.

Good luck man.

da_moose 01-19-2012 1:34 PM

that's Da catch ,,, thay all knew I was coming of the car accdent,, everything was raped up in boards and glass ,,,It was just 2 weeks befor Summer,,,I had over $9,000 worth of Mint boards done and to top it off thay stole over $4,000 worth of boards,,Now the Police can't prove that ,,,, BUT I COUGHT THEM THROWING MY SHOP,,, got it now???and these layers don't care about you ,just da $$$ ,,,and If your Right you don't need a lawyer.The system should do It's job,RIGHT???

psudy 01-19-2012 2:10 PM

did you know the perps?

da_moose 01-19-2012 2:15 PM

No ,Did not even know these Clowns

bigdtx 01-19-2012 4:04 PM

So now we're down to ripping Moose over how his website looks? That's pretty lame.

lizzyb 01-19-2012 4:51 PM

Just as Sam said.. after reading all of this, I still have no idea what actually happened. I seriously doubt I'm the only one.

Shooter 01-19-2012 4:54 PM

What did you do to get a TRO issued against you? Judges normally don't just hand those out for no reason. Is there a judgement against you? Did the TRO state "move out immediately"? Are you still using the shop?

brettw 01-20-2012 9:15 AM

It does sound like there's a crazy conspiracy against you, Moose. I can't help you, but if I ever see you down in a bar/restaurant in O.B. or P.B sometime, I promise to buy you a beer to help out with some of your stress.

da_moose 01-20-2012 11:49 AM

Shooter your SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong anybody can get a T.R.O. ,,,,ANYBODY ,,, JUST TELL A STORY ,,, THATS ALL,, AND IF YOU BRING IN A LYER FRIEND YOUR SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IN

All Right here's the Iceing on DA Cake ,,, READY,,,In the Police report:: these people that I cough destroying my shop and tools ,,,ADMITTED TO THE POLICE,,thay move my stuff ...

Thay told the police I moved out ,,AND FORGOT MY $20,000 WORTH OF TOOLS and $9,000 worth of mint surfboards ??? I showed the Police a piece of paper that me and the landlord SIGNED ,saying I would move out the 31st,,,, these Clowns broke in 6 days befor the 31st?????

psudy 01-21-2012 9:11 AM

SO they were the new tenants?

da_moose 01-23-2012 8:20 PM

New tenants,Didn't even know them ,thay just wanted to take over the whole property.

xstarrider 01-24-2012 10:30 PM

Geeezus man. They didn't steal your **** and you weren't burglarized, They cleaned out the property that u were leaving from 6 days early and put it outside. NOT A POLICE MATTER PERIOD! Civil process. That simple. Her a lwaywr and if in fact they did move you stuff before the agreed date they are liable for any damage to your things. Again NOT A CRIMINAL MATTER. CIVIL MATTER PERIOD. HIRE A LAWYER, LEARN THE LAW, AND QUIT BLAMING THE POLICE FOR YOUR FUBAR'D SITUATION.

grant_west 01-24-2012 11:52 PM

Moose. What Sam said
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present your discussion in a somewhat clear, concise, and understandable manner you would get a better response on here.
In all my years here I don't think I have once understood your post's. That's not to say I still don't love them this thread included! I would love to understand what went down but I have a feeling I could better understand a David From Earmarks stereo talks about the Entabulator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIS5n9Oyzsc

Shooter 01-25-2012 10:59 AM

I got this swatguy:

SOOOOOOO,,,,,,, THAY dInot Brake ThE LAW. Thay KicKd Youre "aZZ" out,,,,,,,,,,,,gEt a Lawer!!!!!!!!!! It not a POLiCE mater;

Sary for tha max up letters.

wake77 01-25-2012 12:49 PM

This thread would give an English teacher nightmares.

da_moose 01-25-2012 1:26 PM

Wooooooo there swatguy,, Everything could be called a Civil Matter,RIGHT???So then your telling me a new tenant can distroy the neighbors place if that neighbors moving out at the end of the month??? I DONT THINK SO

1 I cough them destroying my shop in the moring (thay were up all night doing it ,what were thay on???)

2 thay broke a T.R.O. that thay got (I had to stay 2 yards away)????????????????

3 swatguy there were over $4,000 worth of boards gone.

So saying its a CIVIL MATTER ,sounds like a Cop-out (oooooooohhhhh hahahahahahahahah I just made a funnnny COP-OUT)

No this is not funnnnny ,just think everyone ,IF THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ME ,,,ITS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU



So swatguy tell me WHY THIS MATTERS NOT A CRIME??????? AND DON'T TELL ME IT A CIVIL MATTER BECAUSE YOU SAY SOOOOOO????? thats a Cop-out .

wake77 01-25-2012 1:40 PM

"2 thay broke a T.R.O. that thay got (I had to stay 2 yards away)"

Moose, you are my hero, but what sort of judge issues a TRO that only requires you to stay 2 yards away? Seems like you could sue the judge for issuing an improper TRO.

ottog1979 01-25-2012 1:42 PM

Maybe I missed it. What's the scoop with the TRO?

da_moose 01-25-2012 1:45 PM

But swatguy ,,, you want to know what is a CRIME??? My Bro walking out of my house with a beer in his hand ,just 4 feet ,Cop was driving by and gave him a ticket ,,, THAT'S A CRIME

newty 01-25-2012 6:02 PM

All this talk about coughing people you should see a doctor. Just in case you CAUGHT something.

jeff359 01-26-2012 6:14 AM

They were coughing.....they hounded his stash

joeshmoe 01-26-2012 9:26 PM

DaDaDaDa Moose
WaWaWaWaWhy are you being busted on?
DoDoDoDon't let them drag U down... Man!
GoGoGoGood luck and I hope you get your surfboards back because surfing is CoCoCoCool!

da_moose 01-27-2012 8:44 PM

So swatguy ,T.R.O.'s are not for breaking in to your neighbor's place,THAT A CRIME. No more needs to be said . And you know being a swatguy ,you know anybody can tell a story to get a T.R.O.,,, And there's people at the court to help you get it your T.R.O.

So let try breaking a T.R.O. for a 1000 ,Alex,,, What is a Crime? not a civil matter.

All you have to do is just look at the Pictures ,,does anything there look RIGHT???

Joe your a Shmoe,, if you read "I'm an AMERICAN and have every right to live my dream ,,, no matter what people think of me or what I do. I had 5 to 6 people conspire to shut my life down,,, IF THERE ONE PERSON WHO THINKS THAT WORKED ,your wrong"

NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE DIG YOUR STUFF ,,, ALL IT TAKE IS ONE HATER ,TO MESS YOUR LIFE UP ,JUST BECAUSE THAY CAN

swatguy if you went to work ,and you came home ,to your place being distroryed,and you call the Police ,like you should ,,, and that told you it was a Civil matter ,,, you would be the first one to call B.S.


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