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duffymahoney 04-27-2011 10:13 AM

FAE wave sweep or wave cleaner or wave flap
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So I finally remembered to take pictures of my fae wave cleaner. My swim deck is so short I got spray from the FAE. It has the same angles of my transom and some pipes zip tied to it and they are full of some scrap metal. The rubber is a dump truck mud flap. Works great.

surffresh 04-27-2011 4:53 PM

Interesting, our MB has some weird drop sprays on the reg side, I need a flapper on it

TheSqueakyWheel 04-27-2011 6:48 PM

I'm not familiar with the concept of these flappers. What are they designed to do?

duffymahoney 04-28-2011 9:07 AM

Well i don't know what the concept for other boats is but I designed this contraction to keep spray from my FAE off my wave. Works perfectly and my wave is clean. It was a simple way to fix my issue.

duffymahoney 06-14-2011 8:21 AM

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I built a 2nd FAE flap. This is for my new to me 2005 Tige 24v. I used 3/4 stainless that a local machine shop bent and drilled. I then painted it to match. Again the angles match the transom and it works perfectly! Super clean wave and no spray from the FAE. Tige's have a nice bar on the teak deck that worked great to bolt to.

shawndoggy 08-28-2011 7:59 PM

how would this work to keep prop wash off of the wave?

ragboy 08-29-2011 1:36 AM

Do you have any before and after pics?

duffymahoney 08-29-2011 9:06 AM

Nope, I put it on before I ever even surfed it.

22vdrive 08-29-2011 12:31 PM

Drew I have the same problem with my Tomcat, mine has the muffler on the port-side so I figure that's whats causing it cause it's non existence on the starboard side. Luckily I'm goofy so my friends are the ones that experience the droplets.

duffymahoney 10-16-2013 10:38 AM

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Here is the new generation. Version 3.0 i call it. Made out of 3/4 horse stall mat. Doesn't flex as much and makes the wave almost perfectly clean all the time. Which makes my wave changeable. Long if I want, tall if I want etc... It's bolted to the bracket. Works 100x better then 1.0 and 2.0

shawndoggy 10-16-2013 10:54 AM

I'd be interested to see metalfabguy's MB setup out of the water. It's a much longer flap and more flexible. It flaps and waves when the boat's at idle and looks like a manta ray.

duffymahoney 10-16-2013 11:44 AM

Longer isn't better, stiffer is better.

nailem 10-18-2013 4:37 PM

Would you happen to have a picture from the board towards the boat while underway? Do you want the flap to stay straight down while underway or do you want it to flex some?

Pad1Tai 10-19-2013 6:23 AM

Never been behind a boat with FAE... Does it really have that large of a spray pattern to deal with?

duffymahoney 10-19-2013 1:19 PM

You want it to stay down. Fae doesn't make it that bad. I just like clean! It's difficult for me to flex the flap

AndrewC 10-19-2013 2:19 PM


Originally Posted by Pad1Tai (Post 1849763)
Never been behind a boat with FAE... Does it really have that large of a spray pattern to deal with?

No, been running a FAE for nearly 3 years and I am fine with it. That being said, different boats are configured differently eg. Single exhaust outlet in boat or dual, or platform mounting varies so that could be the differance

Pad1Tai 10-19-2013 6:42 PM

Wondering if this flap would have any effect on a non FAE boat... They all produce a spray from the off side hull.. Has anyone tried this?

nailem 10-19-2013 7:24 PM

If you want to keep it straight would vertical bar stock, one on each Sid and one down the center, help? My enzo with teak deck and quick release fae I get some spray from the support pipes of the far. Not bad but I might set a mud flap up for next year.

duffymahoney 10-19-2013 9:46 PM

It will help almost all boats. Just calms prop wash. Simple and cheap, no reason not to try. Best way to cut the horse stall mats is a jig saw

Pad1Tai 10-20-2013 6:07 AM

Can you post a b4 and after pic if you have them.. that would be great...

duffymahoney 10-20-2013 2:33 PM

I don't have any. I might have some from my centurion avalanche. I originally made the flap for it. If you want a cleaner wave then this will help for sure. I put it on my tige before I tried it. I cut the swim deck as well. Since that was also proven to help the wave on my avalanche as well.

slowwwflowww 10-20-2013 3:55 PM

Like mud flaps on a truck.

trayson 10-21-2013 8:24 AM

how do the mud flaps affect the wakeboard wake?

duffymahoney 10-21-2013 8:59 AM

It doesn't change the wakeboard wake. I thought it might, I don't think it has enough power.

trayson 10-21-2013 9:13 AM

I think you need to get some chrome emblems for your mat...


duffymahoney 10-21-2013 9:20 AM

Truck mud flaps proved to not be stiff enough, horse stall mats are the bomb. Chrome emblems may have helped:)

tonyv420 10-21-2013 10:54 AM

Where can you get the horse stall matts?

BenHolloway 10-21-2013 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by tonyv420 (Post 1849961)
Where can you get the horse stall matts?

Ranch supply

duffymahoney 10-21-2013 12:29 PM

Big-r, tractor supply, any horse- feed store. Any crossfit gym may have pieces to sell.

jaws 01-14-2014 10:57 AM

has anyone else tried this?

JMoore15 01-14-2014 1:30 PM

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I went a different direction a couple years ago (prior to the VX) on my Z1 and built a horizontal plate out of aluminum and it was awesome. I am currently building one to test against my VX on my Z3.

duffymahoney 01-15-2014 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by jaws (Post 1859719)
has anyone else tried this?

Lots of people have with good results. Plus it's not a hard mod.

Electric plate would have been perfect but I gave up on tinkering. Nice looking plate!

W5 03-17-2014 12:49 PM

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What does everyone think of an RV Rockguard material?

fence_sence 03-17-2014 2:00 PM

Worthless for this application.

Maybe that's a bit harsh. I think you need the stiffness of the rubber to actually push the water down.

W5 03-17-2014 2:05 PM

Thanks for the input. I was thinking about knocking down spray, not wave formation...

duffymahoney 04-15-2014 8:13 AM

I had an idea last night. A wave flap on a malibu. Between the wedge. It would minimize the fire hydrant effect.

fence_sence 04-15-2014 9:03 AM

That's a great idea Duffy.

whiteflashwatersports1 04-15-2014 12:01 PM

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Tige 2012 RZR before and after pics - eliminated all spray and smoothed the face nicely

trayson 04-15-2014 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by whiteflashwatersports1 (Post 1872834)
Tige 2012 RZR before and after pics - eliminated all spray and smoothed the face nicely

Wow, that is downright impressive.

soonerbilly 04-15-2014 1:09 PM

Think it would help much with prop wash at wakeboard speeds?

JMoore15 04-15-2014 1:10 PM

Similar results with my plate. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/7y9ypyha.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/emu5edyj.jpg

JMoore15 04-15-2014 1:11 PM

Similar results with my plate. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/zuqy7azy.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/de8uveta.jpg

JMoore15 04-15-2014 1:44 PM

Sorry for the duplicate pics (fist time w tapatalk). Soonerbilly, not sure about the flap but here are couple before and after pics with my plate. The difference is small but it did clean up even more as I added weight and increased the speed (don't have pics of those). http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/ypybe3uz.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/a9ejeqym.jpg

soonerbilly 04-15-2014 1:49 PM

I think i'm gonna do it fot the surf wave.....i was just curious about the wakeboard wake. Thanks for the pics.

bcrider 04-15-2014 3:03 PM

So where is this spray coming from? Just general wash or those with FAE?

whiteflashwatersports1 04-16-2014 6:17 AM

Our flap did not impact the wakeboard wake at all. All driving characteristics are exactly the same. No issue with forward/reverse at the ramp, etc. We do not have an FAE. All of our spray was prop wash and our swim platfrom has a lip.

JMoore15 04-16-2014 7:02 AM

No FAE. Mostly prop wash. The narrower beam Tige's (old Z1, RZR, R20) have much more wash than the wider beam boats. Not sure exactly why but looks like something to do with where the wake converges behind the boat.

dreamer 04-18-2014 3:51 PM

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I'm considering adding a "duffy flap" to my enzo. I added and FAE and have lots of spray that I would like to control. How much pressure would the flap put on the swim grid brackets. Should I use a bar like the FAE or something stiffer?

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