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Michael 04-27-2010 9:31 PM

I dont like my S4 looking for a new board.
 
So i got a Liquid Force S4 this season (09 board), ridden it like 4 times and i just am not happy with it. i feel like my riding is going down hill. i feel like the board is not edging that hard and when i do hit the wake i lose a ton of pop. When edging the board also seems to sit really high in the water, so you don't get that hard charge into the wake.

last boards:

Classic Watson 138- really fun and spins nicely- could be a bit faster
Double up Kieth lidberg 139 which i liked a lot just didn't spin to easily for me.
Double up delta series138
Double up Nelson 138

Recently i have tried the:

Ronix one- not for me, rode like a tank
Company recruit- fun but not much pop, and hard to recover tricks when falling. loves how light it was.
Lyman- too loose for my style and the edging reminds me of the S4.
S3- reminds me of the Watson, popped good but lands way too hard.

My style, don't usually talk about tricks but it gives you a feel of the boards i might like:
a lot of flip variations, with 180s
and spins up to 5's
But with the S4, well not many of these.


So can anyone give me any suggestions? anything would help, oh and i like steep wakes.

dakid 04-27-2010 9:47 PM

try the lf shane...it'll boot you off a steep wake and landings are cush.

Michael 04-27-2010 9:49 PM

does it track hard?
have you ridden the S4?

d4m0 04-27-2010 10:12 PM

cwb absolute :D

cheesydog 04-27-2010 11:49 PM

the new watson hybrid spins like a dream, just finished a sesh with it and landed all my 7's HS, TS, FS and BS which Ive never managed before!

The board is super light, and thin. Edges hard and releases easy.

Honestly the best board Ive ridden. Try it

Michael 04-28-2010 12:21 AM

do you like it better than your limited S4? i like the idea of the new watson its just a but load of money. did you do those 7's on cable or boat?

migs 04-28-2010 8:14 AM

Try a witness.
Tracks hard - super stable - not loose at all
Lands soft
NOt super fast(like a trip or covin), but not slow(like the one) I would say right it the middle.

dlwsrider 04-28-2010 8:19 AM

Give the VIVA a try. It's a bit faster than the S4, tracks well, and has a lot of pop off the wake. I used to ride the Classic watson before I switched to Ronix, and I couldn't of been happier than on the VIVA

Chuch 04-28-2010 9:04 AM

I'm with Joe, and I'd say give the shane a shot. Seems to fit the mold.

stang_killa_ss 04-28-2010 9:08 AM

my 08 shane was a tank. no clue if that got remidied in 09 or 10 though.
loved the way it rode though.

guido 04-28-2010 12:13 PM

I gotta say.... I'm digging the heck out of my new CWB Faction. Fast, responsive, poppy.... Just fun.

behindtheboat 04-28-2010 12:18 PM

If i was sponsored or had hook-ups I'd tell you whoever that was to keep the pattern.

I don't get how the Watson lands hard.... but if that's the case I don't know anything aside from a flex board that will land softer.

sidekicknicholas 04-28-2010 12:21 PM

Slingshot Recoil
or
Byerly Conspiracy

+1 for the Shane being good for everything you said, except its a tank

innov8 04-28-2010 12:59 PM

Have you rode a Hyperlite Tribute?

http://www.hyperlite.com/product/305833/21012/_/Tribute

Michael 04-28-2010 1:15 PM

A-dub- the watson doesnt land hard. the S4 does to me. i might just end up getting a watson classic. i rode really well with it so i think i might just get another one.

AndrewMulkern4 04-28-2010 1:29 PM

Michael-The 2010 Watson is the same as classic Watson, just faster I'm using that now and it's immaculate. I used to have the the 08 Ronix DHV1 and its sooo much better.

tom_paz 04-28-2010 2:36 PM

check out the Byerly Conspiracy. its fast, tough as nails, has some flex tip to tail but a stiff torsional flex and a super hard snap off the wake. plus if you look at the last 12 in of the edge (from where the boot mounts to the tip or tail) its completely straight, so it holds a super crisp and fast edge with very little effort.. oh and the fins are off set from the tail so it releases sick for spins. try it and let it speak for itself.

Michael 04-28-2010 3:32 PM

andrew,

Are you talkig about the 2010 classic watson or the 2010 watson?

04-28-2010 6:46 PM

Try the Liquid Force Lyman! I dont know anyone who hasnt liked it. Its really fast and sits pretty high on the water. Im suprised no one has mentioned it yet.

supernatural 04-28-2010 9:04 PM

"Lyman- too loose for my style and the edging reminds me of the S4."

He mentioned it in his first post

Michael 04-28-2010 10:24 PM

yeah i dont think i like boards that sit high in the water.. my whole life i like boards that i can roll into an edge and just sit on that edge, and keep the predictability before i hit the wake.. none of this slide feeling before i hit the wake. it throws everything off.

ColoRadDude 04-29-2010 1:09 PM

Plus one for the new Watson. I also rode the S4 last year a bit, and I love the new Watson a lot more!

Michael 04-29-2010 5:46 PM

does the new Watson have the same speed as the old and sit in the water similarly?

etang789 05-19-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidekicknicholas (Post 1578790)
Slingshot Recoil
or
Byerly Conspiracy

+1 for the Shane being good for everything you said, except its a tank

What do u mean by its a tank? Shane is slow in speed or response? or does it sit deep in water...etc?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael (Post 1579012)
yeah i dont think i like boards that sit high in the water.. my whole life i like boards that i can roll into an edge and just sit on that edge, and keep the predictability before i hit the wake.. none of this slide feeling before i hit the wake. it throws everything off.

What board do you think that sits low in the water?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColoRadDude (Post 1579288)
Plus one for the new Watson. I also rode the S4 last year a bit, and I love the new Watson a lot more!

Have you tried Shane or Lyman? How do you compare?

And which 2010 Watson did you get exactly? regular or hybrid? size?

bobenglish 05-19-2010 4:48 PM

If you have a chance, try the Lyman again but make sure you have with the newer fins in place and and set them closer to the center of the board. The board will be have better bite and lose that looseness you are trying to avoid. I went from a classic Watson to a Lyman and after playing with the fins, I preferred the Lyman.

hyperlite 05-20-2010 5:07 AM

The new B-SIDE is sick......i left the MAREK for that this year.

ugafan83 05-20-2010 5:11 AM

I have this years B-side as well and love that board

cwb4me 05-20-2010 5:34 AM

can you demo a board? if so try them out lots of shops have demo programs.

Michael 05-20-2010 10:43 AM

yeah i live near a shop so i think i might give the CWB vibe a try. i enjoy flex boards.

Vision,
im not a fan of the Lyman, ive ridden my freinds and its not for me

gene3x 05-20-2010 3:54 PM

Hyperlite Tribute.... Try it. Like Jeff stated above. It has all those characteristics you are looking for fast, great edge, ect....

Also the Obrien Coda (previously the Cartel) is definately worth a ride. Sooooooooo smooth carving and fast. Just keep the Fin in or it will be to loose for you if you did not like the Lyman.

jason95gt 05-20-2010 5:24 PM

Just an FYI that someone on the classifieds is looking for a S4. You should try the new Murray or the CWB DB9.


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