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espritv8 04-13-2010 6:58 PM

First Oil change: Not fun...
 
Hi,

Just made an attemp to get my first oil change on my boat, and i'm not enjoying this.

I made the engine run a little bit to get the oil warm.
Connected my drill pump on the dipstick hose (i don't have the drain hose)
Nothing would come out, but after a while it's started to drain very slowly.

So i tough about removing the oil filter
I got the filter out in 3 hours work, it was stuck in there pretty tight. I even broke one of my clamps. I had the get a screwdriver through it and use it as a lever.

But the oil still won't come out. The pump and hose seems pretty airtight.

I'm I doing something wrong?

joesell 04-13-2010 7:08 PM

The filter was put on to tight at the factory. That part will get easier if you put a little oil on the filter gasket and don't over tighten.

The drain hose is a joke. The best thing you can do is get a vacuum pump. The oil comes out super easy then.

Hang in there man, it gets better.

bac 04-13-2010 7:14 PM

My guess is you aren't building enough pressure to create the vacuum you need. The drill probably isn't strong enough

I've always used one of these, http://www.pelaproducts.com, the big pela oil extractor. I used to work on cars and had one of these for work. There are some cheaper options that will allow you to stick a tube down the dipstick to get the oil out. This is the best way to change the oil on a boat IMO

camassanger 04-13-2010 7:30 PM

Joe and Brian are right on the money. I have the Pela too. Just make sure the oil is nice and warm. I think the Pela says to not let it be hot, but i have and it isnt a problem. The tube that goes down the dipstick is coated metal, so it wont collapse with the vacuum.

The oil filter on the sanger is a bear to get to. I installed a remote oil filter to make it a snap.

fman 04-13-2010 11:26 PM

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Pick up one these and life will get much better.... in my opinion, TEMPO makes one of the best and can be used for the trans. fluid. The adaptor is just a spark plug cover but it works great to attach to the drain line. It will drain out your oil COLD in about 1-2 minutes.

wakebrdjay 04-14-2010 4:45 AM

He doesn't have the drain hose on his,so he must remove through the dipstick tube.

Walt 04-14-2010 5:51 AM

I use the vacuum pump attached to my drain line. It's all out in a few minutes. The drill pump will work too but you really need to make sure the oil is good and hot. Same deal with the drain hose. The best time to do it is after you have used it so it's good and hot.

behindtheboat 04-14-2010 5:57 AM

Sometimes there is a lot less oil in there than I expect would come out, sometimes there's more

bremsen 04-14-2010 7:45 AM

Damn, never thought of using the Tempo with the drain hose. Thanks for the tip!

mendo247 04-14-2010 9:33 AM

Your not alone, My oil filter is always a major PITA to remove. I make a point not to overtighten but it still finds a way to tighten it self up lol

wtrgrl 04-14-2010 10:13 AM

Just changed my oil yesterday for the first time. Filter was a definite PITA. Oil took about 1 hour to drain but it was cold. Joe, whys the drain hose a joke?

guido 04-14-2010 10:28 AM

eh.... just takes a long time through the drain hose. I usually leave it draining over night. I like the remote oil filter idea. I also like the idea of putting the vaccuum pump on the hose. Good ideas there.

wtrgrl 04-14-2010 10:34 AM

Ok. Thats what I thought. I actually left it draining overnight just to be sure. Have to finish up today. thanks

malibumatt 04-14-2010 1:53 PM

how come more people don't put a remote filter on to save the headache?

wakebrdjay 04-14-2010 2:34 PM

The cheap A$$ manufactures should put them on stock at the factory,especially on v-drives.

99_slaunch 04-14-2010 2:59 PM

My 05 Supra came with a remote oil filter and I love it. After I loosen it I put a zip lock bag over the filter. So the oil goes in to the bag not on the floor or bilge. The drain hose is not that bad. While it's draining I just do other things.

mofreestyle 04-14-2010 3:15 PM

I'm glad you got the oil filter off. When our boat was new we had a really tight filter. We used the screw driver through the filter but that didn't even work. The filter tore apart before we got it loose. It was horrible.

espritv8 04-14-2010 5:37 PM

Yeah, well I don't know who tightens those filters at the factory, but I sure hate that guy.

It was the turn of the water-fuel separator today to get unscrewed. I had to undo everything in order to get the fuel filter assy out of the boat and do it with a pipe wrench. It was still srewed WAYYYY to tight. Thanks mercruiser for wasting my time like that.


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