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gregholloway 04-07-2010 12:37 PM

MSRP markup
 
I purchased a 07' X-Star SS new. I feel that I beat my dealer up pretty good over about a 2 month time span to get him to our final sales price which ended up being 32% of the MSRP sticker price. Has everyone experienced something around these percentages when buying new??

I'm in the market for a new SAN 230 and was curious as to what type of markup everyone is experiencing in the new Correct Craft market. Should I expect somewhat of the same??

alans 04-07-2010 12:39 PM

Do you mean to say 32% off of MSRP?

tyler97217 04-07-2010 1:05 PM

You won't find too many people talk about this stuff, but that is an amazing deal. I would not expect that you can get that off a SAN unless there is some special deal that is an old model year and they are going to take a loss on the boat or their flooring company is discounting the boat.

DwightSchrute 04-07-2010 1:06 PM

Congrats on kicking the guy in the teeth. Good for you. Now that they are hurting even more put some salt in the wound, crack a beer and brag about it.

mastercraft1995 04-07-2010 1:13 PM

If they didn't make a fair profit they wouldn't sell it. No need to apologize to anyone.

I would say 25% to 30% is a fair deal.

alans 04-07-2010 1:46 PM

Different companies have different markup. for example.

A MB F21 Tomcat MSRP is about $61,000, so 32% off would be $41,480, so the dealer would make 0 money and MB would lose money building it.

gregholloway 04-07-2010 2:59 PM

I'm not bragging about my deal, I spent 2-3 months of talking to this dealer and them telling me no, no, no, no etc...they kept coming down and down and eventually came to what I was willing to pay! They didn't lose money b/c it would not make sense to do it, they just didn't make that much! The main reason I created this post is b/c I don't feel that CC marks up as much as Mastercraft, but I would like to find out the ballpark that they can move around in!

I think websites like this make for a perfect place to discuss such subjects! Why would people not want to share such information? If I were a dealer I wouldn't care to share it but this site is not for dealers, it's for consumers that have wakeboarding in common to share facts, tips, experience, boat bun, and other BS!

Companies that are marking up boats by 35% are asking for people to start sharing such information. I don't enjoy being raped but at the same time I am a firm believer in a deal where both parties leave happy! They make a little bit, I am happy with my boat! Fact is I paid in the 80's for my boat and in a matter of 2 1/2 years I'm going to be able to get around 50 for it....imagine the loss if I would have paid MSRP!

Every manufacturer is different, every dealer is different. Mark up is going to be more as you move up in price range. All is relative!!

highrock 04-07-2010 3:19 PM

Mark up is going to be different from dealer to dealer I would bet. They could put whatever they want on a sales sheet

helinut 04-07-2010 3:58 PM

The best deal is when both parties feel like they got screwed just a little. :)

will5150 04-07-2010 4:36 PM

^^^^yup^^^

motorcitymatt 04-07-2010 7:31 PM

Thirty-some percent off a new MC sounds about right.
Your dealer still made close to twenty percent.

Enjoy your ride!

SkySki 04-08-2010 9:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gregholloway (Post 1570981)
I'm not bragging about my deal, I spent 2-3 months of talking to this dealer and them telling me no, no, no, no etc...they kept coming down and down and eventually came to what I was willing to pay! They didn't lose money b/c it would not make sense to do it, they just didn't make that much! The main reason I created this post is b/c I don't feel that CC marks up as much as Mastercraft, but I would like to find out the ballpark that they can move around in!

I think websites like this make for a perfect place to discuss such subjects! Why would people not want to share such information? If I were a dealer I wouldn't care to share it but this site is not for dealers, it's for consumers that have wakeboarding in common to share facts, tips, experience, boat bun, and other BS!

Companies that are marking up boats by 35% are asking for people to start sharing such information. I don't enjoy being raped but at the same time I am a firm believer in a deal where both parties leave happy! They make a little bit, I am happy with my boat! Fact is I paid in the 80's for my boat and in a matter of 2 1/2 years I'm going to be able to get around 50 for it....imagine the loss if I would have paid MSRP!

Every manufacturer is different, every dealer is different. Mark up is going to be more as you move up in price range. All is relative!!

Couldn't agree more. I started a thread similar and got dealers replying the boo hoo story too. They want everyone to talk about them on the internet but they don't want people talking about their prices or problems on the internet. Can't have it both ways.

Chuch 04-08-2010 10:14 AM

Consumers job is to get the lowest price possible right?. The salesman's job is to create as much value as possible to raise that bar. good on ya. Hope you enjoy.

wakebdr2002 04-08-2010 11:10 AM

Greg, you probably got a decent deal on your MC but not a smoking deal. I have seen much better than 32% off MSRP on MC's. If you get 30% off on a Supra or CC you are getting a smoking deal. I am not going to post numbers, but I have friends that got deals on their MC's during last years sales slump that would make some of you sick. Of course not everyone can get a boat at that low of a price. I decided to give MC X-star a chance when I bought my last boat and the local dealer couldn't or wouldn't even come close to the deal my buddy got so I ended up buying another Supra (and very happy with the decision).

dizzyj 04-08-2010 11:28 AM

in texas sail and ski will glady sell you a nautique for msrp. THey dont really come off it cause they dont have to.

slipknot 04-09-2010 10:20 AM

Dwight LOL!!!!! I have been quoted that deal Alan, but I am a repeat customer :) Don't get me wrong I would buy a boat from you as well. Are you still selling MB's?

rebelman10 04-09-2010 11:25 AM

Hey Greg, I bought mine at 30% off which included the trailer. That was back in spring of 08'. The profit margin should still be the same. I got mine over at Smith Lake, AL. See you up river

alans 04-09-2010 12:22 PM

Not in the business any more, but stay close enough to it to know pricing. I know where someone can buy a '10 TWB for $42k, but the boat has hours on it.

Bottom line is that different manufacturers all price differently and on top of that, so do dealers. So % off of MSRP means nothing, compare $$'s and options.

nelems 04-09-2010 2:04 PM

Ryan creek is no longer a CC dealer but they may still have leftovers they would want to move. Last year Textron gave them an extra 15% off invoice to move all their non currents. The CC dealer in Pickwick has some non currents you can try them, CC also has repos at the factory. Alabama Waterports in Athens had their inventory picked up a few weeks ago.

Alan I sent you a pm a few days ago, did you receive it?


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