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gtrcs 04-06-2010 5:01 PM

MB Sports
 
Hi guys interested in the MB sports, how do the 220 V and the B-52(smaller one compare)?
thanks in adance guys

wakereviews 04-06-2010 5:13 PM

It's the exact same boat, just different gel and standard options.

alans 04-06-2010 5:49 PM

Yep. What years are you looking at?

gtrcs 04-06-2010 6:47 PM

Thanks Ian.

Hi Alan, I was thinking 05, I have heard they are better from 04 and newer although I dont know how true this is.

jyoungusa 04-07-2010 4:58 AM

I have an 08 220V with most of the standard options that a B52 has except sub-woofer - great boat. In a lot of cases the difference is the styling/scheme in the gel coat - classic lines vs tribal pattern. My 08 has a 45 gal tank, 343HP PCM, 1800lbs of pumped ballast (wish MB had introduced the Pure Vert System as year earlier). There can be differences in the Skylon Towers - how they fold down / design on board racks etc...

alans 04-07-2010 6:31 AM

The '08 has about 3" taller free-board, shorter engine hatch, better ballast pumps, a mild engine upgrade, different tower, and different rear hull design from the '05. There are basically rolling changes every year from '04 to '10 on that boat.

gtrcs 04-07-2010 4:26 PM

So the '05 is the same bottom as the '09

alans 04-07-2010 5:26 PM

95%. The newest version has "built in trim tabs." At least that is the easiest way to describe it.

gtrcs 04-07-2010 6:18 PM

Thanks Alan, your info shoulkd help me alot.

motorcitymatt 04-07-2010 7:25 PM

"Built in trim tabs"............. HUH???? Please explain.

Thanks :)

alans 04-07-2010 8:23 PM

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Here is a little rundown of what is different from '03 to '08.

alans 04-07-2010 8:47 PM

I am such a nerd

ponyh8r 04-08-2010 2:27 AM

Haha..nice work Alan. Mike should consider giving you a job.

alans 04-08-2010 5:38 AM

I would do it in a heartbeat, unfortunately i need to make money, :) Not so easy to do in the boat business, believe me, I have tried.

mdaijogo 04-08-2010 9:59 AM

Alan-

This built in trim tab is not present in my 09 Tomcat. Is this "feature" only on the 220V?

Mario-

alans 04-08-2010 10:58 AM

Specific to the 220V. It is not really a "trim tab", but it does have a slight bit of "hook" in it. No your 09 Tomcat does not have it. It was really just a mild redesign to assist the boat in getting on plane faster. It also gives the stern a little extra "lift" at higher speeds, which actually make the 22'er a decent slalom boat at speeds over 30 mph.

moon 04-08-2010 11:34 AM

We have an 03 220V and for a first time boat owner I'd have to say I'm pretty pleased with it. I'm not really sure how the 05 is any different then the 03, Alan could you give me a little run down?

Moon

alans 04-08-2010 12:13 PM

As far as I can remember, the only differences between 03 and 05 is that the spray pockets are removed. Oh and I think the ballast pump system was re-engineered.

moon 04-08-2010 1:31 PM

Why does my 03 have spray pockets and newer models don't? What was the purpose of the spray pocket?

Thanks,
Moon

wakeborder5 04-08-2010 5:28 PM

I don't know what exactly the purpose of spray pockets were, but they have been noted for causing spray that washes out the wake I believe.

alans 04-08-2010 7:10 PM

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They definitely cause a bit of a notch in the wakeboard wake. What is interesting to me is that the best hulls from MC and CC have them.

gtrcs 04-08-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alans (Post 1571271)
Specific to the 220V. It is not really a "trim tab", but it does have a slight bit of "hook" in it. No your 09 Tomcat does not have it. It was really just a mild redesign to assist the boat in getting on plane faster. It also gives the stern a little extra "lift" at higher speeds, which actually make the 22'er a decent slalom boat at speeds over 30 mph.


what yr model has this hook Alan? as we dont mind the ski now and then.

Is the '02 the same bottom other than the splash pockets being taken away?

alans 04-09-2010 3:35 AM

2007 was the first year that has the extended hull surface.

2004 was the first year that the spray pockets were eliminated

gtrcs 04-09-2010 5:34 AM

so would you reccomend the '07 and later for the ski wake?

alans 04-09-2010 6:09 AM

Most of the skiers that I took out in the '07 and later were very impressed with the wake at slalom speeds, for a 22' v-drive. No, I can't comment on pre-'07 or pre-'04 because I just can't remember.

For anyone else reading this thread, everything above only pertains to the 220 or B-52 hull. Not the 230v, B-52 V23, B-52v 21 TWB, F21 Tomcat, or F23 Tomcat.


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