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gunz 03-30-2010 4:14 PM

In Cali-Who gets the ticket?
 
Just curious,as I've never had one,nor would want one.

Someone is driving your boat(pullin you)and they pull you into a no ski zone.
Who gets popped?Driver?Owner?How much?

Sitting on the swim deck while under way?Person doing it,or the owner?

Riding with a comp vest?How much is this?Anyone know?

Anybody know the answers?
Is there a lake cop on the board?

Thanks.

justintime 03-30-2010 5:59 PM

http://www.dbw.ca.gov/PDF/LawEnforc/2010CBL.pdf

Driver is in trouble
Driver
Rider for vest, then driver for not enough USCG approved vests

I do not know the fines

nick_in_ssp 03-30-2010 7:33 PM

$110 or so in Nevada for not wearing a USCG approved vest. He could of gave us a ticket for no observer but he didn't do that. And I was the one that got the ticket so in this case it was the boat owner.

denystaucd 03-31-2010 8:31 AM

The swim deck under way ticket in San Joaquin County is misdemeanor $390 fine, last I heard.
Cheers,
DC

mofreestyle 03-31-2010 9:20 AM

Comp vest or no vest in Missouri = $0

Vest are highly recommended but not required according to Missouri law.

malibudude 03-31-2010 4:37 PM

Driver is responsible for the operation of the vehicle me in this case but not my boat. However, the boat owner can also be cited for some of the same issues such as lack of life vests etc. according to the wata popo when I got a ticket for my rider boarding to close to the private river dock. I got the ticket $150.00, what a joke, a private dock on a public waterway.

04-01-2010 10:47 AM

The driver is the "captain of the ship" if you will. He is responsible for everything that happens on that ship, He must go down with it when it sinks and can marry anyone aboard. In all seriousness, the driver will almost always get the ticket. I got one in Long Beach for no observer while driving. They cited me for a municipal code (city law) and it was not cheap.

boomboom 04-01-2010 2:41 PM

I can tell you that the driver gets a speeding ticket in WI. lol
$120

breakz77 04-01-2010 5:22 PM

We've had a ticket for no observer back in 2006 at lake Shaste. If I remember correctly it was about $350

That week was a blast but we got about 4 tickets :)

gunz 04-02-2010 10:05 AM

Im going to go to the sherrifs station and see if they have a manual,and what the fines are.
I like to have a good time out there,but trouble/fine free as well.

Thanks for the answeres,its a good start.

razzman 04-02-2010 10:43 AM

Here's something i wasn't aware of either, not that it makes any difference i guess but just for fyi. Any law enforcement officer, from any agency & jurisdiction can ticket you for an infraction on the water if they see it and are aware of the rules & regs. That could open a can of worms huh!

04-02-2010 11:48 AM

Like Razzman said, there can be multiple enforcing agencies and multiple citable sections for the same violation. Municipal Code, State Penal Code, Fish and Game, Federal Coast Guard Regulation to name a few. I regularly ride on the boarder between two states where one side is an Indian reservation (I have no clue how that works). Fines get even more complicated because the fees and taxes added to a citation normally amount to more than the actual fine for the violation.

I have never enforced boating laws, but I would assume it’s similar to enforcing vehicle code. We are all in violation of at least some obscure law at all times. Drive safely, don’t draw needless attention to yourself and don’t be a dick to the cop if he does stop you. If you follow those rules you won’t have a problem.

britshorty 04-05-2010 12:41 AM

I don't know if this is the same as in other states, but up in Washington we have to have a boater education card saying we've passed the test etc... If i'm licensed and wakeboarding while a friend is driving who does not have a license I assume that is illegal? They don't get covered by my license, right?

chris4x4gill2 04-05-2010 10:15 AM

Whomever is at the helm must have a liscense. Its just like driving a car, just becasue you have a liscense, doenst mean just anyone can drive becasue you are present.

Here (Alabama) you have to pass the boaters test and they add the endorsment to your Drivers Liscense. Same as for a Motorcycle liscense.

razzman 04-05-2010 10:20 AM

Not so in Cali unless they've changed the law. I've never had any special license nor does anyone i know with a boat. I had heard of something required for new boaters but i'm not familiar with it. I've been teaching my 14-year old grandson to drive since last season without issue.


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