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pacifichigh 02-07-2010 11:30 AM

No Dangling Here <BR> <BR><a href="http://vimeo.com/9249758" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/9249758</a>

jaybee 02-07-2010 11:35 AM

That's a cool video.

flexnwake 02-08-2010 6:18 PM

That was sick, YO! See it can be legit and fun as hell...

timmy 02-08-2010 8:50 PM

yay no dangling!

wakerider111 02-09-2010 12:01 AM

if i didn't know better i might have thought it was a cable video. even the boards and boots were wake... a lot of them anyway

jarrod 02-09-2010 7:10 AM

Huge props! It's looking way better. <BR> <BR>What changed? It looks like that lanyard thing is longer to give them room for handle passes.

benjaminp 02-09-2010 8:25 AM

So proper from wakeboarding standards?

wakeriderixi 02-09-2010 8:45 AM

this is a wakeboarding forum?!!

timmy 02-09-2010 8:55 AM

Proper for doing tricks that are difficult and actually propelling yourself up in the air rather than flick your wrist and have the kite pull you up by the waist to dangle for a while.

bstroop 02-09-2010 9:43 AM

Tim, <BR>What's worse (or more proper)? <BR> <BR>1. Using a kite to propel you higher into the air. <BR>2. Using 2000lbs of ballast to propel you higher into the air. <BR> <BR>I'll be willing to bet that people aren't looking to ban kite boarders on private lakes because of shoreline erosion.

steezyshots 02-09-2010 9:44 AM

No but they do ban them from beaches because people have been hit with kites

bstroop 02-09-2010 9:50 AM

Copy that Riley...my point was simply that they're both performance enhancers.

timmy 02-09-2010 10:15 AM

My point is that there is a distinct difference between what they are doing in the video, which is using their kite to do some legit, skillful tricks, as opposed to steering the kite to pull them 30' up in the air by their waist. <BR> <BR>Think of it like someone using 2000lb of ballast to do heelside airs compared to someone doing grabbed spins, mobes, etc.

bstroop 02-09-2010 10:22 AM

Got it Tim.

alevitt 02-09-2010 10:56 AM

How come there's no wakeboard photographers that look like this? <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/1/774169.jpg" alt="Upload">

steezyshots 02-09-2010 11:00 AM

I was thinking the same thing!

wakemikey 02-09-2010 11:05 AM

Why would you NOT boost 30 foot airs?

benjaminp 02-09-2010 11:08 AM

Paul Bernier (wakeriderixi) <BR>this is a wakeboarding forum?!! <BR> <BR>Then why are we watching a kiteboarding video? And Adam, maybe you should talk to your contributing photographers about their apparel choices?

alevitt 02-09-2010 11:15 AM

^^^^ <BR>There's no way I'm getting Big Spence in a two-piece! I think I just threw up in my mouth a bit.

stone 02-09-2010 11:26 AM

Not all kiteboarding is dangling. We have a faction that is into riding with style: <BR><a href="http://www.kitescoop.com/videos/video/redfootage/" target="_blank">http://www.kitescoop.com/videos/video/redfootage/</a> <BR> <BR>Bummers is most kiteboarders can't figure out why we don't use the kite more. At least with more of these events happening maybe we'll get some young talent in that will change the sports direction.

steezyshots 02-09-2010 11:30 AM

Just check out Andre Phillip enough said

andy_nintzel 02-09-2010 2:38 PM

Please excuse my ignorance here, but does the Kite board harness swivel around the riders whole body??? I have never really given kite boarding the time of day so I have no idea what the rig is like.

cnagler 02-09-2010 2:47 PM

The harness goes around your waist and the spreader bar(where you attach the bar( handle and lines) is fixed on the harness in the middle and does not swivel. you have to unhook the bar. here is a picture of a harness: <a href="http://www.kiteboardingevolution.com/image-files/waistharness.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.kiteboardingevolution.com/image-files/waistharness.jpg</a>

steezyshots 02-09-2010 2:47 PM

No it stays on the front. You have a safety line that changes the aspect of the kite when you crash so the kite falls to the water and loses power.

andy_nintzel 02-09-2010 3:03 PM

I still doint get it, how the heck do you spin without wrapping yourself up???

02-09-2010 3:04 PM

I think it looks fun either way--dangle or no dangle. If I lived by the ocean I would be all over it. <BR> <BR>It is close enough to wakeboarding to appeal to me. Thanks for posting. I had no idea that they were hitting rails with kiteboards.

steezyshots 02-09-2010 3:07 PM

The safety line will wrap around you but it is pretty easy to get it back in the right spot. It usually hooks to your back so depending on how much you spin it doesn't really wrap that much. Also depends on how you spin, if you go a little off axis it may just come over your head and not wrap up at all.

steezyshots 02-09-2010 3:09 PM

I hate to say it on a wakeboarding forum, but kiteboarding can be more fun than wake. A nice downwinder day with 25 mph winds and 4-5 foot glassy waves and you will have more fun than you can imagine! <BR> <BR>We used to do downwinders from Stuart Beach to Fort Lauderdale beach. Took us about 5-6 hours. <BR> <BR>Blastin waves and checkin out girls in bikinis all the way down! It's a good time for sure! <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by steezyshots on February 09, 2010)

bendow 02-09-2010 3:10 PM

it's not behind a boat so it doesn't count

petew 02-09-2010 5:14 PM

^^^^^^^^^ <BR>hahaha Funny

benjaminp 02-09-2010 5:30 PM

My family vacations to Hatteras Island NC and they are everywhere. I have wanted to try it, but my Dad windsurfs so I would never hear the end of it.

steezyshots 02-09-2010 5:40 PM

Hatteras is the SPOT! A lot of windsurfers have graduated to the kite

flexnwake 02-09-2010 5:41 PM

Windsurfing is dead as foam plank wake boards... Opps did I just say that... Pullin legs and arms. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/crazy.gif" border=0>hahaha

wakerider111 02-09-2010 8:58 PM

Andy Nintzel, <BR> <BR>if you have not watched the other vid that jason posted <a href="http://www.kitescoop.com/videos/video/redfootage/" target="_blank">http://www.kitescoop.com/videos/video/redfootage/</a> <BR>it has some closer shots at slow motion so you can see the strap/harness. i guess they would be forced to learn backside and front side spins eh? <BR> <BR> <BR>ohhh and the vid shows kite-wakeSKATING. Never knew that was done! <BR> <BR>thanks for the vid jason

stone 02-09-2010 11:58 PM

Hey just stoked that kiting is getting some positive attention from a sport I admire. <BR> <BR>Too many times it's just the dangle kiting that gets the exposure.

sbt3 02-10-2010 5:33 AM

Those of you guys stuck up here in the north where the lakes are frozen snowkiting makes for a good way to pass the winter till the lakes thaw. Strap on a snowboard or skis and hit the lake.

flexnwake 02-10-2010 4:05 PM

no doubt Snowkiting is so sick!!! <BR> <BR>I have some decent POV video that might be sorta interesting if you have never seen the sport. You can ride unhookd' way more they you can while on the water. That's a plus! <BR> <BR> <BR>Blue bird <BR><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/8852595" target="_blank">http://www.vimeo.com/8852595</a> <BR>Ridge Run <BR><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/9138223" target="_blank">http://www.vimeo.com/9138223</a>

flexnwake 02-10-2010 4:07 PM

.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/1/774482.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by flexnwake on February 10, 2010)

seth 02-10-2010 4:32 PM

Dang it would be really weird to wake up and hope it was windy outside!!

stevo8290 02-10-2010 4:33 PM

benjamin^^^^^ <BR> <BR>Your profile picture is on cable..... So it doesn't count

steezyshots 02-10-2010 4:33 PM

Downwinders in the snow are soooooooo fun!

jason_ssr 02-10-2010 4:43 PM

Justin, hit me up anytime you want to learn. I ride around here all the time. <BR> <BR>Andy, you really owe it to yourself to pick up a setup and learn. If anything it is a way to get on your board on those blown out days. Kiteboarding requires a fundamental edge both regular and switch. We all think we are fundamentally sound until we get on a kite. Those improved fundamentals will really help your wakeboarding. Plus, the freedom of making your own lines and not just following a boat everywhere is amazing. Once you get it dialed it is so fun to travel with it. Everything you need fits in one golf bag and you can go anywhere in the world and ride any kind of condition you like. You dont have to try to get somewhere and find that the only boat available for a pull is some bass tracker. Hit up some flatwater for a cable type feel, or some waves for some kickers. The harness is just for kite control while cruising across the water. You unhook from it to do tricks.

timmy 02-10-2010 7:14 PM

if you don't have water or snow, just flat land, you can do kite-mountainboarding too.

cheesydog 02-10-2010 7:51 PM

Riley I second that, I learned to kite over xmas, it was some of the most fun Ive ever had strapped into a board. The feeling of freedom when you learn enough to pilot yourself is amazing, and boosting up is amazing fun. Didnt try unhooking as I only had 4 days, but its on the cards for next time!

kcrider 02-10-2010 10:34 PM

I'm thinking of switching over to the kite. Something about it really appeals to me. Plus I don't have to buy a boat to do it. I can just hit the lake and have at it. Not sure yet though, still thinking about it. I'll buy a trainer kite first to see if I even like flying the kite. Mark, Jason or Slingshot if you have any good reasons I would love to hear about them. You can PM me if you would like. I'm just looking for some points of view.

cnagler 02-11-2010 12:33 AM

if I could give you any advice i'd say skip the trainer kite. take a lesson and you will never need to buy a trainer kite and you will be able to see what flying the actual kite is like.

bendow 02-11-2010 5:52 AM

Stephen, I was being extremely sarcastic. I almost exclusivly ride cable

pacifichigh 02-11-2010 9:10 AM

kiting is a great complementary sport to wake, especially if you live near the coast. Wake if its flat, kite when its blowing. <BR> <BR>Trainer kites are good to have around, even if its just to hand off to some chick on the beach that says "that looks cool, wish I could do it...."

steezyshots 02-11-2010 9:22 AM

TRainer kite and a longboard skateboard is so much fun too!

kcrider 02-11-2010 10:36 AM

Ya I was thinking of the trainer kite to ride with my longboard

kcrider 02-11-2010 10:38 AM

Oh ya I will take lessons. I know better than to ride one of those babies without knowing how to control it.

flexnwake 02-11-2010 1:25 PM

Trainer kite is good to start and once you do kite you can teach your friends on the trainer before they try your real thing. There is value in the Trainer even after you're a skilled rider. Like other posters said before riding one behind a skate can be super fun if you have the location to ride in. Also can work if you live near a flat long beach. Bigger foil like a B3 or B4 would be more then enough when combined with a groundboard or longboard. The wind range would be between 10-20kts give or take depending of wind conditions and skill set... Either way you will have a kick in the pants or a hole!!! HAHAHAHA. <BR> <BR>Once you have trainer time your lesson will be easier to understand due to you already having some sort of flying controls down. Usually it can take up to 6 hours of lesson to really get it. But it can take less or longer...

steezyshots 02-11-2010 1:32 PM

If you really want to learn go to key west and go to the kite house. <BR> <BR>You learn out on a sandbar away from any obstacles to run into.

kcrider 02-11-2010 3:19 PM

Would the B2 be a good enough kite to longboard with? I live in Kansas and I have access to a very large parking lot, K-States football parking lot, and also have lots of wind to ride with. Plus I have a lake 5 minutes away.

kcrider 02-11-2010 3:21 PM

Sorry I know this is a wakeboarding forum but I can't find any good kiteboarding forums. The ones I've found like kiteboarding mag's people haven't replied since 1973!! If you guys know of any good sites/forums please let me know. I'm seriously considering buying/getting lessons.

pacifichigh 02-11-2010 4:07 PM

<a href="http://www.kitescoop.com" target="_blank">www.kitescoop.com</a> <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.nwkite.com" target="_blank">www.nwkite.com</a>

kcrider 02-11-2010 4:40 PM


spicychalupa69 02-11-2010 4:51 PM

I am gonna get sooooo flamed for this! I am a die hard wakeboarder at heart turned into kiteboarder. I have been kiting for about a year now and loving every second of it....thanks to Mr. Cristopher Schey et al! ;-) <BR> <BR>Some of you will never understand the true power of these kites and how fricken sweet it is to shred super powered! Its a pretty lame learning curve, however. There's a point where you will want to quit cuz you dont get it but one day, it'll just click and you wont ever look back. <BR>Seeing as I am selling my boat cuz im headed to Graduate school, my kites are my babies! <BR> <BR>If you have never tried it, dont mock it...wakeboarding site or not. Because I can guarantee that most of you did not begin your water sports "career" on a wakeboard but rather skis, slalom or trick skis, so flame you for that! <BR> <BR>Kiting (not dangling, true wakestyle) is going to be the new wakeboarding...just watch.... <BR> <BR>This is a video of me my buddy took a few weeks ago. Some of the raley's are real lame, but if you watch my first one and the one at like 6 mins they're pretty decent for my first time ever trying unhooked tricks! Lovin every second of MN winter!!! <BR> <BR>http://www.vimeo.com/9197641 <BR> <BR>Still love beer, boobs and boats, however...unconditionally! <BR> <BR>(Message edited by spicychalupa69 on February 11, 2010)

kickflip_mj 02-11-2010 9:08 PM

don't mean to change subject and i know I'm in the wrong section but, <BR> <BR>Does anyone want to buy a kite?

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