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joecs 10-05-2009 12:12 PM

2008 dodge 2500. The company I work for purchased a company with a small fleet of dodges. Smoking deal. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/739167.jpg" alt="Upload">

bruizza 10-05-2009 2:18 PM


extremeisaac 10-05-2009 2:22 PM

mega cab and all.. looks awesome!

99_slaunch 10-05-2009 3:31 PM

Put a K&amp;N drop in filter and then on the tube that goes from the air box to the turbo there is a baffle that will pull out real easy. Gives the turbo a nice whistle. I love my 08. Sweet looking ride. Check out this forum real helpfull info on there. <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/login.php?do=logout&amp;logouthash=bfd2f9241a9fadc f37f6cc9ab2500425" target="_blank">http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/login.php?do=logout&amp;logouthash=bfd2f9241a9fadc f37f6cc9ab2500425</a>

05mobiuslsv 10-05-2009 3:57 PM

Nice can't beat a cummins, love my megacab.

joecs 10-05-2009 4:32 PM

Thanks Aaron. Will check it out. The edge attitude with juice will be here Wednesday.

you_da_man 10-05-2009 5:08 PM

I have an 07 2500 Mega with 5.9L. You'll love the truck. I put XD 22"x9.5" and Terra Grappler 285/50/22 on it the other month. Instead of leveling my by lifing the front, I installed 2" drop shackles in the rear. You'll find that the truck doesn't really turn...it "comes about" just like a boat <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

99_slaunch 10-05-2009 5:42 PM

You going to do the deletes. If so there are some good threads on how to keep the check engine light off and not having to clear codes every start. That forum is like WW but for Dodge. I leveled mine and have XD 20x9.5 with a 305-55-20 nitto. There is a way to disable the seatbelt chime by cycling the key. There is a thread on it in there somewhere.

you_da_man 10-05-2009 6:40 PM

Dieseltruckresource.com gets more activity than the cummins forum plus it really sections off the trucks into generations and motor.

tazz3069 10-05-2009 6:50 PM

Here is mine <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/739263.jpg" alt="Upload">

99_slaunch 10-05-2009 7:12 PM

Bunch of Big Timers. I had to get the poor-boy version. Just could not afford the mega. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/739271.jpg" alt="Upload">

you_da_man 10-05-2009 7:38 PM

I'll share mine <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/739290.jpg" alt="Upload">

05mobiuslsv 10-05-2009 7:41 PM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/739293.jpg" alt="Upload">

99_slaunch 10-05-2009 8:08 PM

SORRY for the hi-jack Joe! <BR> <BR>nu bu sent you a pm.

05mobiuslsv 10-05-2009 9:13 PM

Aaron I never got the PM.

joecs 10-05-2009 9:18 PM

No worries. I enjoy seeing the different rigs!

tyler97217 10-06-2009 7:45 AM

I'll play too. Not as nice as your bad boy though Joe,,,,, <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/739341.jpg" alt="Upload">

hatepain 10-06-2009 8:10 AM

Did you ever peel that thing Digg's? <BR> <BR>Nice set up fellas. Is Dodge still using the 48RE? How are those holding up? They were doing good when I worked for Dodge but it was still fairly new.

moon 10-06-2009 9:56 AM

07.5 and up the tranny changed (I believe). I think It might even be a 6 speed auto?

joecs 10-06-2009 10:05 AM

It is a 6 speed auto. This '08 is. How often does the fuel filter need to be changed?

05mobiuslsv 10-06-2009 10:31 AM

At least every 15K. <BR> <BR>Hate my 48RE is holding up great. I've got the smarty programmer and throwing 450hp/800tq at it and still going strong.

hatepain 10-06-2009 11:57 AM

^^^ Wow thats great to hear. If I remember right the 8 is a torque rating designation out of a possible 9 which I was told is the same as the Allison by trainers back in the day.

nate01 10-07-2009 7:17 AM

forget the edge get a smarty.

bchesley 10-07-2009 7:52 AM

I got a 135k out of my 48re before it gave up. It had been flogged repeatedly with a 130hp chip on 35's so it held up really well considering. I now have a DTT custom tranny that should go for 250k. I do plan on wearing my truck out.

saceone 11-08-2009 9:03 PM

I hate you guys. wow.

rob_pitchford 11-09-2009 9:37 PM

love the black on black Diggs! <BR>I'll play 2!<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/746446.jpg" alt="Upload">

rob_pitchford 11-09-2009 9:58 PM

Sorry gents...not a Dodge!

you_da_man 11-11-2009 10:44 AM

^^^ Worse yet, it's not a diesel

azwakekid 11-11-2009 4:22 PM

^^diesels are for farm equipment. that toyota will pull that boat with no problem. it has 400hp!!!

rob_pitchford 11-11-2009 4:30 PM

How about the Tundra with a Diesel? I hear that will be released soon...

99_slaunch 11-11-2009 4:32 PM

^^^^ Yep it will pull it while sucking down the gas as fast as you can put it in.

you_da_man 11-11-2009 7:02 PM

Rob, I thought Toyota scrapped the diesel idea a while back. I remember seeing prototypes some time back and thought Toyota reliability AND a diesel would be a cool idea.

you_da_man 11-11-2009 7:06 PM

Rodney, you can't honestly compare a fullsize gas truck to a diesel truck. The diesel pulls more, lasts longer, more efficient with/without load, and lots higher resale/trade-in. Initial upfront purchase cost is the only real negative (which would be negated during trade or resale). <BR> <BR>(Message edited by you_da_man on November 11, 2009)

99_slaunch 11-11-2009 7:27 PM

^^^ Cost??? I only paid 32k for mine new.

tro 11-11-2009 7:31 PM

initial cost and upkeep cost, that is.

99_slaunch 11-11-2009 8:19 PM

No more than any other truck. Initial cost is not always more. Up keep is not much difference either. I would bet money that Toyota cost more than my Dodge.

lifetimewarranty 11-11-2009 8:25 PM

Nice rig!!! <BR> <BR>My neighbor has it's twin and pulls a 40 foot warrior full of quads with twin pop outs. Runs from Sacto to Nevada almost every weekend with NO ISSUES. <BR> <BR>Gotta love the domestic Diesel rigs...

lifetimewarranty 11-11-2009 8:25 PM

Oh, and the toyota pic.......LOL! WRONG STRING!

rob_pitchford 11-12-2009 8:01 PM

Thanks lieftimewarranty realized that after my initial post ..see second post. And u drive a boat car?

tro 11-12-2009 8:15 PM

up keep is definitely more on a diesel. how much is one of your oil changes? ...just for starters. and an equivalent truck (same options) is more for a diesel, hands down...unless, you buy at a time when diesel is $5 a gallon.

bchesley 11-12-2009 8:31 PM

TRO, I have owned a diesel for the last 5 years and 150k miles and can tell you that the diesel will break even on maintenance. All the tuneups with plugs caps and rotor parts that no longer are needed add up. My gas truck I had before was cheeper at the oil change but thats it. My huge breaks on my truck (standard because of towing capacity) lasted 80k on the front and 120k on the rear. The diesel trucks are so over engineered that all areas of the truck last longer and need less maintenance

05mobiuslsv 11-12-2009 8:33 PM

Spark plug replacement on my diesel is a bargain <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>.

you_da_man 11-12-2009 8:41 PM

^^^Gotta agree there.

99_slaunch 11-12-2009 8:52 PM

^^^^^ My last oil change was $33.00. How much do you spend on plugs,wires and coil packs and your gas mileage when you tow. The resale is much higher on a diesel too. I have owned many gasers and two diesels. The benefits of a diesel far out way a gas truck. Please show me a gas 2500 or 1500 for that matter 4wd with power cloth seats four door,cd,power sliding rear glass, front bucket seats with console, over head console,tilt,cruse,satellite,bed liner,steps,17 wheels,tow package,tinted windows,fog lights etc for 32k new. My gas trucks got 8-9 mpgs towing my boat and 14-15 with the diesel. I'm just saying.

rob_pitchford 11-12-2009 8:53 PM

Sorry Joe looks like your thread has turned into a gas vs diesel debate - my bad. Just saw the heading "new tow rig" so I thought I would post up. Anyways..good points on the diesel. I was planning on a diesel however I went for the Toy as I got a great deal and I no longer have to tow my boat great distances - just up to the lake at the beginning of the season. If we didnt have a place at the lake and I was towing every weekend I would have gone for the diesel as the gas motor really sucks it back when loaded up. Granted the Tundra tows like nobodys business but I only get 325km per tank compared to 500km unloaded and commuting to work everyday in a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel didnt seem quite as practical as a 1/2 ton gas truck (if you can even call that practical).

tro 11-12-2009 9:05 PM

my gas truck gets 10mpg towing and 17-18 regular. my buddie's powerstroke gets 13-14 mpg regular and probably about the same towing. <BR> <BR>it's whatever. buy whatever you want.

99_slaunch 11-12-2009 9:17 PM

Ya mine is 14.5 in town unloaded and 18-19 on the highway unloaded. I get 14-15 towing the boat mostly high way when towing. That's hand calculated. I'm not the most conservative driver on my in town driving either.

jimmy_z 11-12-2009 9:18 PM

Well Rob you have the idea. <BR> <BR>Aaron your justification for a diesel over gasser may work for the many who are clueless about their vehicles. <BR> <BR>Your maintenance and the initial cost of a diesel will NEVER be more cost effective than a gasser. INCLUDING FUEL MILEAGE. Until you get past 200K miles.(which makes sense for folks who use it for a construction-type buisness.) <BR> <BR>There isnt a wakeboat made that cant be towed with a 1/2 ton. Anything more is overkill. <BR> <BR>Feel free to flame away and justify your purchase.

99_slaunch 11-12-2009 9:25 PM

No need to flame. It's not your fault you don't know better. No one said you can not tow with a half ton. Read my post above and do you home work and show me. That's what I paid for my truck and those are the options and fuel mileage. Let's hear your idea. Inform the clueless. What do you tow with and whats your mileage, maintenance etc ?

05mobiuslsv 11-12-2009 9:36 PM

Aaron he obviously likes to tow hills at 3000+ rpm to maintain speed while the diesels pass them at 1600 rpm up hill. Been there done that and you can't beat a diesel for towing and there is no arguing that fact. <BR> <BR>I've had several 1/2 ton pickups from all the american brands and a 3/4 ton gasser and non of them could tow like the diesel. I have it because I wanted it plain and simple, not need to justify any further. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on November 12, 2009)

jimmy_z 11-12-2009 9:38 PM

Aaron you stated that your oil change was 33.00 dollars. <BR> <BR>Either your a liar or your delusional. Your Dodge takes a minimum 12 quarts of oil. Plus a filter. <BR>EVEN IF YOU DID THE OIL CHANGE YOURSELF IT WASNT 33 BUCKS. <BR> <BR>From that statement alone YOU are one of the clueless.

05mobiuslsv 11-12-2009 9:42 PM

Jim maybe he was a little off, Shell Rotella T 15w40 $10 a gallon. Oil filter $10 depending where you get it. I can do it for $40 without any special deals on anything.

99_slaunch 11-12-2009 9:43 PM

Ya I know. I just get a little rattled sometimes by crap like that. That's like saying an I/o is better for wake boarding than a v-drive. MAN !! It's gonna be a long winter. I can tell already.

99_slaunch 11-12-2009 9:53 PM

OOOOP's I get a little discount from O'riely on my parts (shop rate) and nu bu is correct got my rotella for $10.00 a gallon. Yes I did do it my self. Man you must feel stupid. Now find me a gas truck comprable to mine for cheaper. Don't forget state inspection on a diesel is $15.00 and gassers are $40 or $45. Dude I can do this all day. You will loose.

jimmy_z 11-12-2009 10:41 PM

Ok Aaron. Whatever you say. Your world is a small one. <BR> <BR>There is a minimum 4-5K premium for the diesel option. <BR> <BR>Add it up all day....how many years does it take you to break even???? You can even count your mileage if you want. Im thinking over 6 years....even in YOUR best case senario. <BR> <BR>BTW nice truck Joe!!!!!!<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Jimmy_Z on November 12, 2009)

99_slaunch 11-13-2009 4:42 AM

Find me a gas truck comparable Jim. Can you not find one? I have added it up and I'm already ahead. I think you just like to run your mouth on how much you don't know. SHOW ME THE NUMBERS !!!!

99_slaunch 11-13-2009 5:05 AM

Don't forget us clueless diesel owners have the option to make our own fuel if wanted. If I remember correct it's about $.55 or $.65 a gallon.

cjh1669 11-13-2009 6:51 AM

Diesel all the way. I don't have a newer Dodge I have an 01 that gets about 18 driving around town empty and 15-16 towing. I also do my oil changes for about $40, and only have to do them every 7k miles. Which equals to just about every 6 months. I think another key idea missed here is that my truck has 143,000 miles and runs like a gas truck with 50,000. It will last another 150,000 easy. How many Gas trucks do you see towing at 200,000 miles? <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/747063.jpg" alt="Upload">

05mobiuslsv 11-13-2009 7:00 AM

Jim you are correct you will pay more for a diesel truck, even if it is a small premium vs a comparable gas truck. There is a reason for it, diesels have beefed up tranny's as well to account for all the tq.

you_da_man 11-13-2009 7:22 AM

Personally I think that owning a newer, semi-tricked out diesel is kinda like owning a new luxury car...it just has that feel to it (for me anyways). Resale and/or trade-in is definately where you'll get your money back from a diesel AND more than likely more than the initial cost for the diesel option. My friend is a manager for a large Dodge dealership here in Texas so diesels are sold and traded daily. He shows me the numbers on the deals as far as trade-in and often shows me the actual diesel truck traded in. It amazes me how much this dealer will give a customer trading in a beat up, torn seats, cracked windshield, dented bed/tailgate, over 250k miles for a new diesel.

cjh1669 11-13-2009 7:58 AM

I think the problem with buying and selling a new Diesel like that is that it isn't even broken in by the time you get rid of it for a new one. Part of the reason I think paying the extra for the diesel is it's ability to run well for a much longer peiod. Yeah at times diesels trade and sell for more, but 2 years ago, when diesel was almost $5 a gallon, you couldn't give them away.

bstroop 11-13-2009 8:03 AM

I recently went from a diesel to a newer gasser and don't have any real complaints. Sure, it's nice to hear the turbo spool up and never have to take it out of overdrive while pulling a hill. I'll also miss the smarty programmer's power. However, I was able to buy the exact same 3/4 ton truck but newer in a gasser version for 7k less than I paid for my year older diesel. I'm comfortable with downshifting and losing a little bit of speed. 7k will buy a whole lotta gas/oil changes in my newer truck. There are benefits to having either so just be happy with yours and stop caring about the other. The gas v diesel has been going on as long as the chicken v the egg. Clearly the only hands down winner is whatever you own. If you have a diesel don't forget to wave at me when you pass the white ram 2500 on I5.

05mobiuslsv 11-13-2009 8:19 AM

Brian I'll try not to blow to much smoke on you LOL. <BR> <BR>Nice post and well put Brian.

cjh1669 11-13-2009 8:22 AM

I agree with Brian, if I'm doing what a lot of people on here are, selling them in a couple years, then I'm buying gas.

bstroop 11-13-2009 8:34 AM

I've got it coming nu bu. I could never resist stepping on it next to a ricer with an open window. Karma.... <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

you_da_man 11-13-2009 1:07 PM

^^^smoke switches are so much fun when it comes to smoking someone out.

05mobiuslsv 11-13-2009 1:39 PM

No smoke switches A.J. just a smarty programmer, damn thing rolled coal like a freight train before I updated the software. More smoke than I'd like actually. I'd prefer no smoke, well while towing anyways.

you_da_man 11-13-2009 1:52 PM

^^^I run a Smarty Jr.

05mobiuslsv 11-13-2009 2:06 PM

Do you have the 6.7 or 5.9?

you_da_man 11-13-2009 2:09 PM

My truck is an '07 mega with 5.9L. I had the option for either but chose the 5.9 since it's been around for years.

you_da_man 11-13-2009 2:11 PM

nu bu - where are you guys getting the rock guard to protect the boat. That looks nice and practical for towing.

05mobiuslsv 11-13-2009 2:19 PM

Mine you can check out here TowTector.com. Got it locally at an RV store.

you_da_man 11-13-2009 2:21 PM

nu bu - thanks, found the Enkay Rock Tamer as well...although pricey, it would look damn good with the black/chrome on my truck

joecs 11-13-2009 5:05 PM

Wow, go away for a day.......Nice Toy Rob. I guess it depends on the deal. I stole mine for $25K. 08' 6.9 with 45k miles. It included the lift, amp steps, exhaust, Laramie pkg, etc.....I also have a fifth wheel that my 1/2 ton could not tow.

rob_pitchford 11-13-2009 6:50 PM

Crap thats a good deal Joe. Prices have dropped up here in Canada but i still dont think we will see that kind of deal. Well done!

extremeisaac 11-15-2009 8:28 AM

heres mine... 06 1500 SLT just got the fiberwerx prerunner glass fenders painted and mounted... had room for 37s now <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/747361.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/747362.jpg" alt="Upload">

bchesley 11-15-2009 1:21 PM

Love the fenders. You need to get the ones for the back too.

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