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pri3st 07-09-2009 8:52 AM

Thinking about buying a wakesurf board &amp; some more weight for the boat. My boat- '93 Sunsetter. <BR>Ballast now - 680# rear seat sac (in place of the rear seat,duh) &amp; 370# tube sac in middle ski locker. I was thinking about adding another sac on the port side of the motorbox. OR..could I lay my rear seat sac next to the motorbox towards the port/rear &amp; get a decent wake? <BR><a href="http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9500/img2692d.jpg" target="_blank">http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9500/img2692d.jpg</a> <BR> <BR>Can it be done? Is it even worth it? Will we be able to let go of the rope? What size board? <BR>Inspire me...let's see some pics.

biggc1 07-09-2009 9:12 AM

I will let you know how mine does on Sunday. I just picked up a board and I have an 86 Sunsport. <BR> <BR>I have 2 370# in the rear and I was thinking about getting another 370 or maybe a 750 for along side the motor box. I also have a bow sac I could try filling a little.

baddad 07-11-2009 10:20 PM

I run a 750# sac along the dog house shoved all the way back to the rear bench. Then another 750# sac inline with the first, on top of it, but the second sac is further back. It rides over the bench all the way back on top of the stern. 2nd sac filled to about 60-75% full. 400-500# in the bow. 20' direct drive. Everyone onboard toward the weighted side for the most part. I called Acme and bought a new prop for all that weight. <BR> We have alot of fun with this little boat!

cromulius 07-14-2009 4:52 PM

I have run up to about 1k in the fat seat and 3 440's stacked port side but they only prolly 400 ea. Little less when we had a couple of more people in the boat. Always put the bow into oncoming wakes unless you want to call the insurance company.

ericlassiter 07-15-2009 9:38 AM

i would recommend adding two more sacs to whatever side that you will be surfing on. it's all about getting that back corner down as much as possible. i'd leave the ski locker sac, maybe drag that back sac more to the side you'll be surfing, then throw a sac next to the engine, then one more on top of all that. <BR> <BR>remember, not only keep the bow high when you're crossing rollers, but also only make turns to the side that you're surfing. let's say you're surfing the port side wake (passenger side). you're going to only want to make left turns when someone falls because if you make a right turn, that back corner of the boat will essentially slide through the water and there will be a flowing river in the back of your boat.

goinboardn 07-15-2009 11:53 PM

No doubt you can get a decent wave with a DD <BR> <BR>1998 Sky Supreme DD <BR> <BR>400# hard tank in rear <BR>400# locker sack <BR>3 250# fat buddies stuffed in the corner (two on the floor in a L shape around the motor box and one on top of the L) of whichever side the rider is on. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/716888.jpg" alt="Upload">

deepcove 07-16-2009 10:33 PM

2004 Moomba mobius LS DD <BR> <BR>350 lbs stock tank in rear <BR>250 between back seat and motor box <BR>540 lbs beside motor <BR>Another 540 lbs on top and onto rear seat<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/717168.jpg" alt="Upload">

wakemikey 07-17-2009 8:35 AM

87 Supra SunSport. <BR>My pic diary is at: <BR><a href="http://www.supraboats.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=3630" target="_blank">http://www.supraboats.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=3630</a> <BR> <BR>Weight: <BR>-350 rear ski locker + 250 under rear bench seat, <BR>-750 on the floor by the motor, <BR>-200 - 350 in the bow port side, <BR> = 1500 - 1700 lbs this is probably the MAX weight we run. Depending on the size of the crew, we may run less weight. <BR> <BR>ACME 913 prop is PERFECT!!! Thanks JT from NettleProps.com <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/717259.jpg" alt="Upload">

pri3st 07-20-2009 7:28 PM

I'm going for it. Going to order a couple more sacs. Now how about a board. I really don't have a clue. What size? type? Brand? I would like one board that numerous people can use.

wakemikey 07-22-2009 9:52 AM

If you need a multi-rider/big rider board get something bigger like Hyp Broadcast 5.6 or an Inland Surfer Blue Lake if you can afford it. Shred Stixx have a great reputation. If you want a board more closely sized to you, what is your weight and height?

pri3st 07-23-2009 11:49 AM

6'3" 200#. The oldest son &amp; wife are the lightest people that would be riding, 100-105#. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by pri3st on July 23, 2009)

awoo 07-25-2009 10:43 AM

this is behind my 84 ski nautique. <BR>750lbs in the rear and 550lbs on the surf side.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/719638.jpg" alt="Upload">

cowwboy 08-03-2009 9:30 PM

Still working on perfect weight. normally 400 in back, 400 on surf side, and partially filled 1200 in bow depending on load. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/722636.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/722637.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/722638.jpg" alt="Upload">

duckdiver 08-13-2009 6:50 PM


cowwboy 08-13-2009 8:34 PM

How much?

wotan 08-14-2009 9:17 AM

1987 Saltare -- 3 x 700lb sacs. 1 behind the engine box, two on the port-side floor. Only 2 people in boat on this pic but typically 5-6 people in boat and the wave is a little longer and bigger. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/725884.jpg" alt="Upload">

duffymahoney 08-14-2009 11:55 AM

Wave looks pretty thick and meaty. Do you have a trim tab?

wotan 08-14-2009 12:35 PM

I've got an "anti-cavitation plate" that is only manually adjustable -- have never played with it -- might be worth exploring?

duffymahoney 08-14-2009 1:13 PM

Yeah you could totally lengthen that wave a little. You could also put a hydraulic-electric trim tab on.

wotan 08-14-2009 2:06 PM

Up or down to lengthen it? It doesn't have a lot of adjustment. <BR> <BR>I think the electric/hydraulic trim tab may be more work than you think -- I don't have access to the backside of the transom below the gas tank (below the swim deck.) I would assume I'd have to run electrical or install backing plates down there?

duffymahoney 08-14-2009 2:32 PM

I installed it on my boat, took a couple of hours and cost 300 or so off ebay. If you can't get to the transom, I wouldn't do it. Put the plate down a little, it will force the nose down and thus make the pocket longer. I might also clean the wave up a little.

rallyart 08-14-2009 9:17 PM

Down to lengthen the pocket up to steepen the wake. <BR>Plate down = bow down. Plate up = bow up. <BR>Just like Duffy says.

duckdiver 08-17-2009 3:26 PM

hey cowwboy. $200 for the sac. where are you located.

wotan 08-19-2009 3:54 PM

I put the plate down and you're right.... wake still had good push but was a lot longer.... I think I put it down a little further than I prefer, but it's good to know! <BR> <BR>Not sure how it will effect my wakeboard wake... but... well... I don't care that much!

duffymahoney 08-19-2009 4:28 PM

Sweet! I love my wakeplate, it totally changes everything

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