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lfrider92 01-16-2009 4:34 PM

Okay, <BR>so im doing a project on keith lyman, and i want to show a video clip at the end of my presentation. <BR> <BR>I had planned on showing keith's section for Push Process, but i found out today that 4 minutes is the max video length. <BR> <BR>what i want to do, is bring in push process onto my computer so i can cut and paste different parts of his section to make the time what he is asking for. i tried to bring in the video and i could only get the main menu video. <BR> <BR> <BR>How can i bring the video files in? <BR> <BR>if you can help me, thank you so much, if not, thanks for reading <BR> <BR>Also, if this helps you at all. i use the program adobe premiere elements 4 for video editing

sidekicknicholas 01-16-2009 5:26 PM

You can rip the DVD and from there chop it all up, but that is illegal (making the copy). <BR> <BR>I would just show some Youtube clips or something.

dakid 01-16-2009 5:34 PM

1. it's extremely difficult to rip clips from dvds to edit. <BR>2. it's extremely rude to take someone's hard work, chop it up and edit, then present it as your own. <BR>3. see #2.

lfrider92 01-16-2009 5:35 PM

it says that the batteries might be dead. it wouldnt load on my computer. but its working on my dads, so im going to try to get it to work. its just for a school project, and i plan on giving oakley full credit.

dakid 01-16-2009 5:36 PM

did you get oakley's permission? they might be cool w/ it being as it's for school and all, but giving credit isn't enough. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by dakid on January 16, 2009)

lfrider92 01-16-2009 5:39 PM

no i didnt. ill send them an email though

cali_rider 01-16-2009 5:59 PM

i would just do your presentation then show the video part last. I use to do it all the time, usually no one said anything because there watching something cool. Rippin DVDs and throwing them together isnt cool.

wakeboardern1 01-16-2009 11:04 PM

You should just load up the youtube version of Keith's part. It was made available by Oakley for the public, and Keith had it on his MySpace and his blog (the youtube insert). <BR> <BR>Really, cutting up his section would not only be Joe's number two, but it would look bad as well. I could put together a 4 minute edit of the video right now because I ripped it to my computer so I could watch PP on my iPod in the car on trips (watched it 3 times on the way too Florida), don't judge me =P. I wouldn't cut it up though, because it just wouldn't look good. JS put a lot of time and effort into making that section as awesome as it is, and chopping it up would just be lame. <BR> <BR>So again, just use the youtube version, or cut the first half of the video out or something. Or you could cut a chunk in the middle out that has both his wake riding and the wake to rail gap.

richd 01-17-2009 8:15 AM

Now that you have posted this the FBI will probably be outside the classroom door waiting to arrest you! <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87667/660326.gif" alt="Upload"> <BR> <BR>If what you're doing serves no commercial purpose I don't see the harm in it. <BR> <BR>Hell, TotalVid has been selling Delta Sessions online as a download for the last 5 years and we've never seen a penny from them, never signed a license agreement with them, nada. Where did they get the content? Obviously from a DVD rip. <BR> <BR>Get permission? yeah whatever.

lfrider92 01-17-2009 9:03 AM

haha alright, i didn't think id get to much attention for you guys for this. ill just try and show keith's entire section without the teacher complaining.

lfrider92 01-21-2009 3:34 PM

hey guys. i know i got a fair amount of crap for this. but anyways, i got an email from one of oakleys lawyers today, and they said it was fine with them if i cut it up. and they thanked me for asking permission

101wake 01-21-2009 4:23 PM

He is probably trying to pass it off as his own that's why he doesn't want to do the youtube gig. <BR> <BR>If so... <BR> <BR>You are lame!

richd 01-21-2009 5:46 PM

Interesting sidenote regarding a copy of my Delta Summer 06 video that started out as part of an article here on wakeworld and ended up all over the internet. Well a version of it that someone pulled from Wakeworld and had posted on youtube was removed at the request of "WMG" (warner Music Group I assume) more then likely due to my use of a Chili Peppers song as the soundtrack. Guess I should have asked permission but then again I didn't put it on Youtube! <BR> <BR>Mongorian: why is he lame? He was clear earlier it was time issue and obviously he's trying to do the right thing - calling Oakley for permission. Most people don't care who made something they only remember the content. <BR> <BR>One thing about video making and this goes for your amateur stuff right up to the full blown pros - everybody copies everybody else - only about 1% of any of it comes from an original thought and generally once an edit or FX type becomes popular it is beat to death by everyone else. <BR> <BR>"Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house" comes to mind when it gets down to these discussions.

lfrider92 01-21-2009 5:49 PM

"He is probably trying to pass it off as his own that's why he doesn't want to do the youtube gig. <BR> <BR>If so... <BR> <BR>You are lame!" <BR> <BR>...really? <BR> <BR>like i said. im doing a school project on lyman. there is a thread about it in the wakeboarding discussion board. the narrator from push process set me up with an interview with lyman (done via email) <BR> <BR>im not going to post the video online. its going to go onto a dvd then im going to show it to my class. and i plan on giving oakley full credit for the video. <BR> <BR>seriously, why would i pass it off as my own when im asking for help and telling you guys what the video is? i mean really?... okay man

lfrider92 01-21-2009 5:51 PM

Rich Dykmans (richd) <BR> <BR>thank you for that, i appreciate it. <BR> <BR>but back to my question. <BR> <BR>now that i have permission <BR> <BR>how do i get it onto my computer?!?! haha

richd 01-21-2009 6:07 PM

Beats me, I've never tried to edit video from a DVD source. You would need to convert the footage you want to edit into a file type that can be edited by whatever software you have. This probably means a file type that contains both the video and audio synced. The problem with DVD content is that the video and audio are stored in two different file types. There is free software called mpeg streamclip that might do what you want to do.

lfrider92 01-21-2009 6:10 PM

i dont want the music from the dvd. i want to put my own. the software i use automatically converts the file to file type that i can edit. <BR> <BR>i just want to get the video up. im not worried about sound

brinks 01-21-2009 8:16 PM

You can also try handbrake. <BR>On another note: Funny thing you mentioned about people stealing work Rich. I was in class the other day just browsing through the school server looking at other students motion graphics projects. I found 3 different projects from three different people in three different classes that had taken some videos I shot and edited for OWC. They cut them up and used them in their personal projects. A funny thing is that OWC had me compress the videos so much and scale them down so small that when these kids brought the videos in to their projects and tried to scale them back up, they looked like garbage. Served them right (Garbage in, Garbage out)

lfrider92 01-22-2009 7:53 AM

hand brake didnt work. it says its copy protected. <BR> <BR>and brinks, that sucks! sorry people where stealing your work. <BR> <BR>the project im doing isnt a video project, its for my history class on someone that intrests us. i have to research on lyman and give an oral biography on his life. the video is just an added thing

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