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nu2dagam 05-30-2008 5:00 AM

I have a 99' supra with 350 CID MPI. The fuel line runs from the tank, through a carter fuel pump, through the fuel/water separator, then through what looks like a secondary fuel pump then through the rail and fuel filter and into the engine. My question is regarding the secondary fuel pump. Are these common on those engines. It almost looks as if it was added after market as the wires that supply power to the carter pump are spliced and ran through a relay then to the secondary (booster) pump. Any help is greatly appreciated as I believe this pump has gone bad.

nu2dagam 06-02-2008 9:52 AM

Does anyone else know if they have two fuel pumps on their boat?

nu2dagam 06-02-2008 9:53 AM

Actually I have found out the pump above the fuel/water separator is the high pressure pump and the carter that comes first on the fuel line is a low pressure pump that helps bring the gas from the back of the boat to the front of the engine. Does anyone else have a 2 fuel pump set up? I was just wondering how common this is.

norcalmalibu 06-02-2008 10:54 AM

Its very common on Mercruisers to have a secondary fuel pump. The booster pump is necessary. Also on some of them their is a little fuel filter right outside of the tank that clogs very easily that will result in low fuel pressure. <BR> <BR>I have the black scorpion and it hates to run on a fake a lake, if you blip the throttle it will die. <BR>I talked to my mechanic and he said its not uncommon for the black scorpion to do this. Poor design in the fuel system thats why the booster is there. Also i believe that booster pump is in the neighbor hood of $300-400. <BR> <BR>Where are you located? I have a fuel pressure tester if you need to borrow one.

nu2dagam 06-02-2008 11:06 AM

Thanks Nate. I put a fuel pressure gauge on it to determine the problem in the beginning.I had initially thought is was the fuel pressure regulator and changed it. Well obvioulsly that was bad too. I put a new fuel pressure regulator on it and it ran good the first time out. Second time out, it worked good for a minute, but then started surging again. I took it to a mechaninc who ran the codes on it and the computer did not throw any codes. So I hooked a fuel pressure gauge up to it and the pressure was dropping from 38 to 20 and the high pressure pump was whining. So I am assuming the high pressure pump is either overheating (it was hot to the touch) or has a restriction in there somewhere. I hope it is the problem and not money wasted. I have changed all the filters. I am going to look at the low pressure carter pump to ensure there is not a blockage in there. I will look for the little filter you described and see if I can find it. That is on the agenda tonight before I stick that expensive pump in it. I even emptied all the gas out and put new gas in it. It is tough without an Indmar dealer to tell me the problem.

norcalmalibu 06-02-2008 12:27 PM

Jonathan, I was told the fuel filter outside the tank is very small and easy to miss. I have attached a link of Fuel Filters I believe its part#18-7869 <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.iboats.com/Mercruiser_Fuel_Filters/dm/category_id.268712--view_id.268966" target="_blank">http://www.iboats.com/Mercruiser_Fuel_Filters/dm/category_id.268712--view_id.268966</a> <BR> <BR>But from the sounds of it I would guess your high pressure pump is dead. <BR> <BR>I'm assuming you replaced the fuel/water separator?

nu2dagam 06-02-2008 12:37 PM

Yeah, I replaced the fuel/water separator. I will look for that filter tonight. And I am going to take off the carter pump and hopefully the high pressure pump and see if I can find any clogs. If so, it will be a spare part for the boat.

nu2dagam 06-02-2008 12:39 PM

I have actually never seen that fuel filter before. I will definitely look. Thanks again. Hopefully I will have an update tomorrow. I am not expecting a good prognosis, but we will see.

norcalmalibu 06-02-2008 2:13 PM

Does your system have a feed/return style fuel system? Make sure to follow the feed line all the way to the tank.

nu2dagam 06-03-2008 5:18 AM

I didnt find the extra filter we were looking for. I did find a screen in the high pressure pump, but it looks ok. I am not going to take it off till the new pump comes in with the directions. I didnt get a chance to go through the carter either. Are there screens elsewhere that anyone knows of?

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