what year did centurion change the avy hull design to the new style hull? thanks in advance..

Was 2002 the first year for the Avy. I'm not aware that it has ever changed. <BR> <BR>The Lightning hull changed between '04 and '05. The lightning is no longer available, the newer Lightning C4 hull replaced it.

2002 was the first year and the hull has yet to be changed. It is hands down my favorite boat in the Centurion line-up. I have had one for the last two years, you can fill all three tanks and add a 500lb sac in the floor and the wake is incredible.

I haven't wakeboarded behind the Avy, but I have surfed. The Avalanche wake is hands down the best surf wake I've ridden on. <BR> <BR>We used two Avalanches to pull at the NWL Wakesurf Nationals this year. We weighted one for regular and the other for goofy. The wake on both sides was very balanced.

avy hull did change in 04 or 05 from a 18* to a 22* dead-rise hull

No the Avalanche Hull has never changed

thanks guys i didn't know that i thought the older avy 02 was same hull as lightning00-04...

No def different. I have an '04 Lightning. I wish I had an Avy.

This is an 02 Avy hull same as an 08 <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/512703.jpg" alt="Upload">

I meant that the Lightning and Avy are different. Here's my Lightning. Note the hull extension. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/512708.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/512709.jpg" alt="Upload">

I meant that the Lightning and Avy are different. Here's my Lightning. Note the hull extension. <BR> <BR> <BR>

I know Ed I was backing you up<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/wink.gif" border=0>

So have you been surfing that new model Enzo? The only thing I've seen on the 216 is the IS press. I'd love to hear about the regular and goofy wakes.

I never do goffy but this is the regular with just the stock ballast filled on the passenger side and 5 people sitting on the passenger side <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/512718.jpg" alt="Upload">

Hmmm, you look different than I expected;) <BR> <BR>I ride with a lot of goofies. I'm interested in a boat that's good on both sides.

Yeah I lost some weight<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/smile.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR> <BR>It might me good on both sides I have just never tried it. I just tell them this is the side that you surf on and they don't know any different. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>