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26lacefield 09-20-2007 8:03 PM

sooooo i saw it today over here at the dealer meeting. its a sick looking boat. great lines. tige figured out how to design a bimini also hahahaha. its very easy to put up and pull out. the price is also very good. for one thats fully loaded(ballast, 4 tower speakers, tower lights, speed set, stainless steal package, you know everything). they are going for 52k. and thats wiht everything on it. tige called it the pimped out model lol. one with no extras besides a tower is going for 39,999. so depending on how what extra's you add to it the price would be between there somewhere. if your in the market for a new boat you really need to go check ont of these out when your local dealer gets some for stock. i haven't boarded or driven behind one yet but i'll get a chance to do that tomorrow. i got some pics of the boat but wont be able to post them antill i get home.

timmyb 09-20-2007 8:39 PM

I stopped by my dealer, WWS in Denver (Bill Bistline), and they were down at the dealer's meeting. The mechanic that was left behind said that they had gotten to see the boat today and thought that it was going to be a hot item for the next year. I can't wait to see some pics!

mt67 09-20-2007 9:28 PM

I saw 2 sweet looking boats in shrink wrapped driving down towards Dallas and I think they might be the new line of Tige's . I got pic's and will post later!

wakeboardlasvegas 09-20-2007 9:45 PM

Ballast?<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lame.gif" border=0>

timmyb 09-20-2007 9:54 PM

Tige is never going to push ballast for 1 ridiculous reason.... customer complaints. I heard that the #1 problem on Wakeboard boats is the ballast system not working correctly. Tige figures if they don't push the ballast, they won't sell it and therefore it can't break and then customers can't complain about it. We all know that the boats need it, but if you think about it from their standpoint it is a good business decision. If a boat isn't coming in for service, it's not costing the dealer/mfr money to fix it. I see their point but wish that my boat had factory ballast at the same time....just have to settle for aftermarket I guess.

dansmith 09-21-2007 3:41 AM

Well, I'm glad its going for $39,999, because $40K would be way too much for that boat...

26lacefield 09-21-2007 5:17 AM

the ballast isn't a standard option. the front weight is a soft sack that goes under the front seats. the rear weight is hard tanks. they're in the storage not behind the motor like in the RZ's. there isn't enough room behind the motor to put them back there. one thing that i'm going to suggest in the meetings today is too pull those hard tanks out and put soft sacks in there. if i got one of those with ballast the first thing i would do would be to switch the hard tanks with the soft sacks. and then wire/plum some other sacks into it and add some more lead so it would be around 2500lbs. but i can't wait to ride behind it today. the boat that i'll ride on will have the factory ballast and a bunch of the head factory guys in it so hopefully it'll be pretty good.

mt67 09-21-2007 7:45 AM

I hope these images are attached. I have pictures of the new boat traveling down the highway. I cant wait to see what is under that shrink wrap!

dabell 09-21-2007 8:10 AM

No pictures.... <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":-(" BORDER=0>

mt67 09-21-2007 8:24 AM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/502892.gif" alt="Upload"> <BR> <BR> <BR>Here are the pictures!

mt67 09-21-2007 8:25 AM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/502895.gif" alt="Upload">

olskooltige 09-21-2007 8:41 AM

Looks like a 22Ve or something along those lines.

jon4pres 09-21-2007 8:47 AM

Is the Z1 a picklefork?

dabell 09-21-2007 8:53 AM

No, the RZ1 will not be a picklefork. However, the transome is what will be a major change compared to other tige's.... That looks like a different Convex V hull though.... hummmmmmmmm

nwsjake10 09-21-2007 8:55 AM

whats the length on it?

dabell 09-21-2007 8:58 AM

They are saying 21 feet

nwsjake10 09-21-2007 9:08 AM

i like the looks of the tower...does anyone know where I can find more info on this boat..it doesnt look like theyve got it updated on the site..or am i just being dumb..?

dabell 09-21-2007 9:16 AM

This is there "top secret" boat that next week you will see something on it. The tigeowners.com website has comments about it but these are the first pictures that I have seen.

dabell 09-21-2007 9:27 AM

Well.... Next week is probably a guess though. <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":-(" BORDER=0>

26lacefield 09-21-2007 10:21 AM

lol damn they did a great job on shrink wraping those boats. they really didn't want anyone to get a glimps of them. the main thing that i'm waiting to do is to drive them tomorrow. tige brought in a x-star, a natique 220, and a Malibu V-Ride for the dealers to look at, drive and compare with this new Z1. i know that at my paretns dealership we aren't even going to order any 20v's for stock. the the same price you could get a Z1 with all the same options. hopefully they'll put pics of the boat on the site and also put it under build your boat so us dealers can figure out what colors to order. hahaha theres nothing worse than ordering a ugly boat.

dabell 09-21-2007 10:41 AM

I thought that they dealers were already allotted 4 Z1 boats each. Has that changed????

johnsvt 09-21-2007 11:09 AM

Ryan would just like to hear about the wake and of course dimensions would be good.

05mobiuslsv 09-21-2007 11:13 AM

Nice MC and CC flagship boats against Malibu's entry level boat LOL!.

stephan 09-21-2007 12:29 PM

Timmy, you are right. No on can complain about ballast if the boat doesn't come with it. On the flip side, I won't get the chance because I would never buy a boat that did not offer some type of factory ballast. So in one sense its good to avoid customer dissatisfaction, on the other hand it completely removes a large group of people that would have bought their boat if they offered the ballast the boat needs. Why don't they offer it as an option? I like the Tige boats but hate having to still stack sacs everywhere. Bush league my friend, bush league.

dabell 09-21-2007 12:44 PM

Tige does offer the ballast as an option. But, it's an option not a standard feature. Tige has always done this.

timmyb 09-21-2007 1:01 PM

Shouldn't Tige have brought in an X-30 instead of an X-Star? I don't know the models of CC's boats but pretty sure a 220 isn't the right comparison...

05mobiuslsv 09-21-2007 1:19 PM

If those boats are really the one's they are bringing it just shows how stupid they are.

ron_mexico 09-21-2007 1:45 PM

QUITE BOLD NU BU. i would say the rz2 matches up to the xstar quite well in the marketplace considering they are both 22ft picklefork designs and the their new boat (21ft v drive) competes quite well with a v ride (if it is infact a price sensitive boat). The 220 nautique splits the difference with the two and is a very quality built boat to have on hand for comparison at a dealer meeting. I don't know how you do it with your boat company's dealer meeting, but i think tige probably made an educated decision in their effort. IMHO

nwsjake10 09-21-2007 1:52 PM

timmy, <BR>i dont know if they should have brought the x30..if anything it should be the x-15...that is MC's 21fter..the x-star is probably not a good comparison as you said..but i don't think the 30 would be good either..since its a whole 2 feet bigger

jon4pres 09-21-2007 1:56 PM

If this is for their dealers meeting surely they are going to have their entire line there. I would say the v-ride will compare with the z1. the 220 with the 22ve adn the x-star with the rz2.

wakereviews 09-21-2007 1:56 PM

it is possible that those were the only boats they could get a hold of and it's also possible taht they wanted to compare it to different boats at different price levels b/c they feel their new model competes with higher priced boats. Certainly bringing in 15 boats for their dealers to test makes no sense. Calling them stupid without knowing their intentions seems... well...

timmyb 09-21-2007 2:01 PM

Whoops, I meant X-15, not X-30 in my post...

nwsjake10 09-21-2007 2:07 PM

yea, i figured..

05mobiuslsv 09-21-2007 2:13 PM

Read his post again. Tige is comparing the X-star, CC 220, and V-ride to this new Z1. Does that seem really sane there Ron Mexico? I can see them comparing the V-ride to the Z1 but an x-star please.

dabell 09-21-2007 2:17 PM

Okay, how about they are going to compare the various other 21 foot boats to the z1... Apparently the other manufacturers are not living up to the new standards Tige is setting. <BR> <BR>he he he <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by dabell on September 21, 2007)

05mobiuslsv 09-21-2007 2:21 PM

New standards huh, what did they do built a thicker hull that won't fix the wimpy stock wake.

dabell 09-21-2007 2:26 PM

I was joking!!!!!! Apparently we have a dedicated Bu fan that has blinders on. You are right, Bu's are the "best"..... Give me a break...... <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/uhoh.gif" border=0>

05mobiuslsv 09-21-2007 2:34 PM

I know you were, forgot the smiley face in my post. That was my little jab. Since missed it last time here you go <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

ron_mexico 09-21-2007 2:42 PM

jon makes the point, which i guess i failed to imply... i am sure that tige is taking THEIR entire line to THEIR meeting. after all it is the TIGE DEALER MEETING. so with that said. the competitors boats are their to compare to more than the z1. i am not going to get into flame throwing. i feel i have made my point. <BR> <BR>MALIBU RULES!!! (that should get me outta this one safely)

26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:08 PM

here's some pics of the boat <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503015.jpg" alt="Upload">

26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:09 PM

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26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:10 PM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503022.jpg" alt="Upload">

nwsjake10 09-21-2007 3:10 PM

hmm..thats about it for now

26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:11 PM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503025.jpg" alt="Upload">

26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:11 PM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503028.jpg" alt="Upload">

nwsjake10 09-21-2007 3:12 PM

question..tower speakers..what/who makes them?

megatmoe 09-21-2007 3:13 PM

Ive never been a Tige guy but those look very nice! I love how clean the lines are. Thanks for the pics!

26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:18 PM

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503031.jpg" alt="Upload">

dabell 09-21-2007 3:24 PM

Wetsounds is the supplier of the speakers in Tige's. They are an option. <BR> <BR>Nu Bu: <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

26lacefield 09-21-2007 3:34 PM

they brought in the v-ride to compare it with the z1. i think they brought the 220 and the x-star jsut for the dealers to drive and get to know more about them. being that those 2 are some of the bigger boat lines out there.

newty 09-21-2007 3:39 PM

Where are the 56 cup holders!<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0> No room for bling on the inside ie: LED's, speakers (aside from the bow)I assume they are close to floor in the seat bases. Love the look, I think the hull has great lines and I love the new drivers sear, but I'm not sure about the closed sides in the seating area or the split engine cover. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503035.jpg" alt="Upload">

evil0ne 09-21-2007 3:53 PM

That black and grey boat look amazing. The U of M boat takes a die hard fan to love. <BR> <BR>First thoughts: <BR>* The bow shape is interesting, it looks to be a little squared off. I like the reclined seats in mine better. <BR> <BR>* Not sure if it is the graphics or if the hull really has the detailed lines in the bow area, but it looks nice. <BR> <BR>* It looks like a two piece engine cover with no walk through like the RZ models, interesting. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by evil0ne on September 21, 2007)

magellan 09-21-2007 4:01 PM

Am I the only person who thinks that Wetsounds look ridiculous and cheap? I think they really hurt the look of those boats. <BR>Cool boat though!

26lacefield 09-21-2007 4:03 PM

Nuwty the cup holders, speakers, and LED lights are down by the floor. sorry i didn't have any shots of the inside of the boat but i belive theres about 12 cup holders and 4 speakers and a sub in the bakc of the boat and 2 speakers up front.

dabell 09-21-2007 4:07 PM

Ryan, how many people can ride in that thing????

26lacefield 09-21-2007 4:08 PM

ooo yeah and Nuwty why do u need a spot to put your beer shouldn't there be one in your hand at all times. hahahaha. and GettingOlder i think the Wetsounds look great. the way the the speakers are designed it so that the speakers push the sound out toward the rider. they say that with only 2 of those speakers you will be able to hear your music on an 80 foot line.

26lacefield 09-21-2007 4:09 PM

David thats a good question i'm not sure about that. i forgot to look at that but i think it might be about 11 or so

26lacefield 09-21-2007 4:10 PM

i'll run by the boat tonight and look

ttrigo 09-21-2007 4:14 PM

I dig the look of the boat. I still can not stand the tower though. it has yet to grow on me. rather, it grows on me like a nasty pimple! <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

newty 09-21-2007 4:21 PM

At the risk of being in the minority I agree with you magellan. I know they sound great and are well built, but not a fan of them (looks wise). <BR> <BR>Ryan I assumed they had an alternate area for those things. I guess I'm always used to seeing the area on the sides to tuck things away. I like the fact that Tige keeps coming up with new ideas (or a new spin on old ideas), keeping other builders looking over their shoulders. <BR>Good for the industry. <BR>I really like the new rz line. <BR>That being said I'll take the gray and black one. 39,000 you said?<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

newty 09-21-2007 4:26 PM

I agree with you thomas. The dealer here in Oregon orders them w/o towers and has samson towers build a custom line for Tige. They look sweet!! <BR> <BR>Ryan, Good point, although power turns prove difficult with a beer in your hand. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by newty on September 21, 2007)

newty 09-21-2007 4:36 PM

Found a pic! <BR>I like it a lot! (in your best dumb and dumber voice) <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503051.jpg" alt="Upload">

dabell 09-21-2007 4:47 PM

Is that the new RZ2???? I don't remember the slight curve on the transome on the older versions.....

26lacefield 09-21-2007 4:57 PM

Newty the grey and black one is the one that they brought thats the "well equipt" one. the only things it doesn't have is ballast, 2 more tower speakers, tower lights,and transome remote. and i believe its around 45k. the one thats 39k is bear stock, small motor, tandome trailer, and a new cheep looking tower.

newty 09-21-2007 4:57 PM

its an 07' <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.staytonmotorsports.com/B8552.htm" target="_blank">http://www.staytonmotorsports.com/B8552.htm</a> <BR> <BR>Ryan I figured that, I making joke for you! <BR> <BR>(Message edited by newty on September 21, 2007)

shon_g 09-21-2007 5:18 PM

Ryan what is the beam on the boat.

shon_g 09-21-2007 5:18 PM

Post pics of the wake

johnsvt 09-21-2007 7:29 PM

Good lookin boat...second offaxis...beam and lets see the wake

26lacefield 09-21-2007 7:31 PM

i'm not totally sure what the beam is. i know the based the mold off of the 20v but i believe that they said its a little wider than the 20v which is 96in. beam so i'm guessing its around 98 or so. i'll try to get some good pics of the wake tomorrow when i'm riding it.

ralph 09-21-2007 10:14 PM

I've never been a Tige' fan but the RZ1 looks hot. Good work.

evil0ne 09-22-2007 7:30 AM

The cupholders will be in positions similar to what you see in this picture. They're in each corner in the rear as well. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/503153.jpg" alt="Upload">

timmyb 09-22-2007 7:55 AM

Nice looking boat! I don't dig the tow hooks all the way at the top of the transom though, I hate that. The rear lockers seem like they might be akward to get in and out of as well. I really like the overall design though!

innov8 09-22-2007 12:13 PM

Boat looks really nice, they did a great job, now lets see the wake on that bad boy!!

26lacefield 09-22-2007 8:51 PM

sorry i didn't get any pics of the wake today when i rode in it and drove it. i think one of the other guys in the boat did so maybe he'll post them. the water was pretty rough so i could get a real test of the wake but it seemed nice. it wasn't quite as wide as the 22ve because of the 100inch beam. the wake was solid. when i'd hit it it gave a good pop and didn't let me blow thru it. as far as the handeling of the boat goes it was a very nice boat to drive. in the rough water it took the chop very well. handled great. got up on plain very quick too. when i boarded the ballast was full which i believe was 650 and there was 7 full grown men in the boat. it didn't hesitate to get onto plain. i'm really impressed by this boat. it only took them 1 year to develope this thing and its a great boat. another thing that they are changing for the 08's is the vinyl. they switched venders and its now the same stuff that Malibu is using.

malibuboarder75 09-23-2007 7:06 AM

To all the people who don't like the looks of the wetsounds: <BR> <BR>The egg-like shape of the speaker enclosure was tested and proven to give off the best sound. I don't know the engineering behind it, but there was a discussion on speaker enclosure shapes on here a year back. <BR> <BR>Also, the brackets on the wetsounds are amazing. They are super strong, lock down to the tower with no slipping, are universal to almost any size tubing, and are a quick release system. <BR> <BR>So before you go bashing something for the way it looks, you might want to think about the engineering and practicality behind it.

murphini 09-23-2007 9:41 AM

looks pretty good on website--the 24ve rated for 16 people, the 22ve $ rz2 are 14? so hopefully this is 12 or 13... ? <BR> <BR>If this is really $45k, moomba's out of business!

26lacefield 09-23-2007 10:31 AM

i talked to the guy that decides how many people the boats are rated for and he hasn't officially decided yet but he's thinking it'll be at 12 people.

tyler97217 09-23-2007 10:48 AM

wow that is pretty sweet! i have never been a tige guy either, but it looks like they may have hit the mark... will have to check it out..

lionel 09-23-2007 11:54 AM

Good lookin' boat. I like the edgy lines. Thanks for posting the pics Ryan. Wake pics would be nice.....Diggs, do you see an all black one in your future?

billspin 09-23-2007 12:40 PM

Check out the Tige site. <BR><a href="http://www.tige.com/models_z1.php" target="_blank">http://www.tige.com/models_z1.php</a>

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