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wakedirtsnow 05-24-2007 11:16 AM

m gunna get the hs backroll down this season <BR>im just wondering if i should try a tantrum instead <BR>which ones easier/less likely to get hurt? <BR>and my board is huge will that matter? <BR>i weigh 140 and i have a 144 i know thats humoungus but will it really matter ive been riding it for like a year

bwillx2 05-25-2007 9:45 AM

Backroll I think IS easier, and yes that board is way to big! You need to be riding about a 134, it is alot easier to control when flipping and or spinning. I would chunk the 144 and get atleast a 134 or 136 if you are planning to nail alot of tricks

wakedirtsnow 05-29-2007 10:21 AM

alright thanks

wakedirtsnow 05-29-2007 10:52 AM

i also have a cwb paradise 129 which is probably too small. im saving up fr a new board ill probably have it in about 3 weeks but till then which board am i better off using? the 129 or the 144?

aldrichiii 05-29-2007 1:25 PM

My guess would be the 129. I weigh 185lbs and ride a 141 which works for me. You'll be more likely to complete the rotation with a shorter board, as long as its long enough to keep you afloat and absorb some of the impact.

wakedirtsnow 05-29-2007 9:22 PM

hey thanks guys but my dad let me get a board and im gunna pay him back <BR>i got an 06 134 LF team so i think i should do fine o it i got it off ebay should be here by this weekend

chefwong 05-30-2007 2:56 PM

In my experience learning a backroll was much easier than a tantrum, but everyone is differnt. You gotta ask yourself, do you feel more comfertable backflipping or side flipping, mexicaning it. It was much easier for me to pull off a side

wakedirtsnow 05-31-2007 10:22 AM

i think a side flip with alittle bit of an angle would be the easiest for me(like a diagonal flip if you get what im saying) <BR>anything i should learn before the flip that will help me?

jusstty 05-31-2007 10:36 AM

Some people do backrolls easier and others do tantrums easier. Try both and watever one you get closer on work on that.

jakesnyder 05-31-2007 10:37 AM

Take a lesson! It is the fastest way to improve.

wakedirtsnow 05-31-2007 10:20 PM

idono about a lesson <BR>how much are they? i thought lessons were only for begginers to learn how to like get up and the basics

ronnyboy27 06-01-2007 9:44 AM

No way. a lot of the pros have coaches. Everytime I've taken a lesson I've felt that it really helped me.

pittsy 06-01-2007 10:01 PM

I weigh 140 and ride the shane 140..i love it..the bigger the board the more surface area there is to land on.. <BR> <BR>anyways, i would say the tantrum is so much easier than the backroll..i landed my first tantrum after 5 tries.

wakedirtsnow 06-03-2007 10:09 PM

really the backroll seems easier/simpler. which one hurts more when you fall. im gunna try one of the two next weekend. <BR>is a 10ft diameter trampoline big enough to try backrolls and tantrums with a rope

kal_dude 06-04-2007 12:25 PM

try to find someone who you can ride with that can do the trick you want to learn and have them watch and give you advice, or you can take a lesson, and pay $$ but it will help you learn the trick much faster, and save you from a lot of bad falls!!! psych yourself up before you cut in for the trick, you have to think you can land it before you will be able to land it!!! GO for it!! you are only landing on water right!!! it took me a lot of tries before i landed the backroll, but it was f-ing sweet the first time i did!!!! DONT LET GO OF THE ROPE!!!!!!! <BR> <BR>kal

jakesnyder 06-04-2007 12:36 PM

It took me a lot of trys to land a back roll also. I had to remember two things. Throw the rotation AFTER I popped off the wake and keep the rope low, at my waist. Good luck to yea. Its a great feeling landing your first invert!

wakedirtsnow 06-05-2007 8:19 AM

thanks guys. alright then hs backroll it is. so keep the handle in, progressive edge, and throw the rotation after hitting the wake. anything else.

kal_dude 06-06-2007 10:10 PM

make sure theres chicks in the boat!!!!!!!!!!!!

wakedirtsnow 06-07-2007 5:47 PM

lol <BR>im going monday ill try it and let u guys know what happens ill get videos too

kottonm0uthking4 06-07-2007 9:45 PM

Backroll is cake if you dont think about it too much. The first time I landed it I took a way too short approach. What i gave up in distance from the wake is the quality of the cut. When i take a shorter cut i focused on a progressive edge into the wake. I found when i took a wide approach into the wake I flattened off becuase I got scared. Once you hit the wake just turn your head and throw your hips in the direction you are going.

afrodeziak 06-11-2007 11:38 PM

biggest key to this trick for me is keep the handle at your hips, straight legs when you hit the wake ie. stand tall with hips up forward, <BR> <BR>shorter cut and progressive, if you have a lot of speed and huck you wont get air, theres a reason why you can do this trick from 3 feet out, dig in and hold the edge. <BR> <BR>bs roll was my first invert.. tantrum second.. took me forever to learn the roll, tantrum not too far off, once you've become comfortable flipping, trying inverts isn't so bad, you lose the fear of eating <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> down.


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