Getting a 2013 Custom XStar!!
 

Hey guys,

Haven't been here in a while but I need some advice. I'm getting a 2013 XStar and was wondering what you guys think of the XS-650's compared to the stock JL Audio speakers that come in the boat?

Thanks,
Ryan

First!

Dont they use M770's or M650's? I would just stick with the JL stuff but you will probably have to replace the stock amp as I am sure it is way underpowered. In 2007 they used a single 6 channel JL amp to run 4 interiors, 4 towers and a sub. I bet the speakers only got 35-50 watts a piece and probably should have at least 100 if not 150-200.

MC does not run their amps like that.

I.E.
4 In-Boats + Sub = M600/6
4 on the tower = M400/4
2 on the tower = M200/2

Ryan, do you like full sound or a lot of treble emphasis on your audio? If you like the smooth full sound, JL is your speaker, but I'd do the 770's instead of the m650 because of the 20% gain. If you like the tweeter high sound, xs650 is your cup of tea ;) these things scream!! Both choices are excellent and it will have to be you who decides the speaker you like best... It's like comparing apples to apples here, instead of apples to dog poop, like if you said WS or JL compared to Rockford, Sony, fusion, MTX, ect... Just my opinion...

LOL, it's Ryan Xstar. He's famous! And buying another new star!

(keep the JL stuff)

What comes with the Barbed Wire Edition for 2013?

I guess it is better then they use to but still underpowered unless they are using MX650's in the cockpit. That amp is rated at 75 watts a channell at 14.4v(while the boat is running) and 60 at resting voltage.

Alan, do you know what series of speakers MC uses on the interior? MX650, M650, M770?

clearly a joke thread

Don't ruin the fun! I would go with whichever speakers don't hang as low.... it would be a shame if they got in the way of your gymnastics.

... Heck pretty soon Lon will be in here getting his hybrid 2013 X-St80r.

Interior speakers are M770's

7.7" 2-way marine speakers (pair)
injection-molded, mica-filled polypropylene woofer with synthetic rubber surround
1" silk dome tweeter
2-way crossover attached to the woofer basket
UV- and corrosion-resistant Centrex polymer baskets and grilles
designed for free-air applications (no enclosures needed)
power range: 40-100 watts RMS (175 watts peak power)
frequency response: 45-25,000 Hz
sensitivity: 91.0 dB

Dang, it is ryan xstar. Not sure it is a joke thread though.

one post... seems fishy.

Chatt i was going to ask the same thing! so ryanxstar what kind of "customizations" are you getting done for this one? is it going to have actual barbed wire on this one instead of just a paint job?? don't even think about the angel fart/mosquito repelant/dvd player with screen/pop up cleat!! we'll have to charge you big time for that thing!

number of posts... 1... this has got to be a joke,

The twitter handle seams real, but you'd think if this was really barbed wire xstar ryan, he would have bragged about his boat on his twitter feed at some point.

... my guess is someone found the add he posted to craigslist selling his old boat... and ran with the info from there.

Man if i were that kid and i was getting a new "customized" 2013 xstar, I would never come on here with ryan and xstar in my names on here. itd be like Bob or something.

Damn. This really may not be a joke. Look at this guy's twitter picture and compare it to the pictures of the guy who got the barbed wire boat back in '05. That's the same dude.

http://twitter.com/ryanschwartz1
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http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...73163196ZdCLoy

Either this is real, or some troll did his homework!

And why would he be asking about in boat speakers first?

Man, if we can get MHunter and XStarRyan to face off in a G23 v. XStar battle, this forum may literally implode.

...If this was a troll. It seems like a legitimate question for someone getting a new boat. Come on Ryan, chime in.

Just because this guy has one post doesnt mean anything...if he hasn't posted since that thread then he would have 0 posts. Remember when they switched servers? Everyone's post count went to 0 didn't it?

Remember when a level 10 gymnast was the single greatest thread in WW history?!

awww. CONDOLENCES from ALL of us at WAKEWORLD

Barb Wire Edition...

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s...Smith/barb.jpg

Judging by the pics of him riding (off his webshots page) LESSONS, should come with a 2013 X-Star.

First of all thanks for everyone that legitimately applied. Yes, it's the same Ryan with the Barbed wire X Star.

I am getting a new Xstar. I'm going to go with the XS over the JL, thanks Truekaotik for the input.
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I've learned a trick a two since the last time I posted pictures

Hey Ryan could you plz post that good old thread of yours so some of us could be brought up to speed

One of them has been deleted.. however I did find this one...

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showt...hlight=XStar05

I love these threads

Good Sport

Welcome back RyanXstar!!!!! Man I still wish I had your life!!!! You are famous!
Congrats on a new Xstar!

Why does my join date say 2010 :( I feel as if I lost some fame...

It's been awhile. How is everyone?

Does the new boat come with pee bottles? I've heard those are critical.

Ryan you should see if theyll throw in a new setup with your new boat. If i was you id be stoked.. barbed wire and all

What the **** do you mean by "custom"?

This is great!

It would be sweet if they could get urs out ahead of Travis, Rusty & Harleys boats! How sweet would that be to say you got yours before team riders.

And what will be custom about it?

Don't you know. Every new X star is custom......... A custom non working, trouble shooting nightmare each with its own custom horror story. Good luck man. I would have bought a g23. Mc hasn't figured out how to get a 2012 out the door with working plug and play, surf tabs, perfect pass, or a tower with no issues. Same ol' same ol'. They are not the same mc boats of the past.


And most of all..........welcome back

wow. Incredible amount of **** talking.

Congrats on the new boat.

Similar discussion on teamtalk (speakers not ryan_xstar05):
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=49236

If I were you, I'd stay with the JL in boat speakers, and not order the tower speakers and subs. The in boat speakers are hard to beat, if powered correctly. You can put your own sub, rev 8s for the tower (don't think rev10s fit on the new towers), and amps that are way better than factory and a lot cheaper.

That is if you have any money left after your new X Star and fueling up the yacht. Sorry couldn't resist...

another "one of a kind" for you?

I am not 100% how the 2013 X Star is set up but most MC use the 7.7 in a component set up with separate tweeter.

They may have changed to the coax mount.

We have just released our new XS-808 8 inch convertible marine speaker. (SW-808 as well) They can be mounted as a coaxial or as a component set with the separate tweeter. I will have them on our site tomarrow so you can check out the dimensions on cut out and OD to see if they will fit.

Would give you the cone area of a 8 inch versus the 6.5 inch off the XS-650.

Congrats on the new boat!

Tim
Wet Sounds

Maybe I missed it but did they ever get the 13 star dialed in ? You have some deep pockets or big ones to buy a boat with no proven track record . Well congratulations I hope it all works out for you. Can you give a hint as to what the boat even cost?

Hi Mhunter, the new Star is dialed in. This is evidenced by the plethora of new tricks that have been landed behind it this year in the PWT. Is the G23 in production yet? Does it have a track record? Give Ryan a break. He's half your age, with twice your money. Stop drinking the "haterade," and let a playa play!

Haha no problem Ryan! There sure are alot of haters on this site...

They may finally have te wake dialed but I was at the 2 nd and 3rd stop and it was piss poor. The same tricks are going on behind other mfg boats too they just are not sponsoring the pro tour sobthats why there is bo hype. Mc i the king of marketing and spin, and now these days making claims te trucks are purely due to their new boat. That's absolute bs. No doubt the wake will be good but mc is not the construction masterpiece it once was. It's July and mc still has no remedy for re 2012 issues or some of the 11 issues. Get used to driving by feel and filling up you sacs with throbover pumps. I can tell you I know at least 8 die hard mc guys that have flown the coupe for Nauti these days. Bling gets old after you stare at a non working computer nightmare of a boat that u spent over 100k on that still needs to be fine tuned like a budget boat for issues and recalls.

You may want to take a peek at the Teamtalk site and decide for yourself. There is sOmerhong to be said for the lack of a 2012 X Star

Is it worth considering the G23 over the new Xstar?

Oh snap...did you just ask that? Hit up the other threads on the G23 for yourself. This thread will go off topic in a second. Go with what you like, but youll prob get a G23 sooner than the Xstar. Seeing your old boat, it looks like you like the wow factor and to me personally...the G23 has that. Just my opinion

After seeing the wake pics in the new Supra thread I would throw that one in there too

Having just been in one , watched its performance , and going through it with a fine tooth comb absolutely youre crazy not to if you are considering dropping your cash on the Star. In my opinion the g23 had the most well thought out design to date. There are gas shocks and hinges on every friking seat you lift up. The storage areas are crazy big I mean crazy they boat is humongous yet you sit in the drivers console and it feels like a wakeboat not a spaceship. Their tower was simple and easy to use. The in floor cooler storage is even insulated. I am a huge fan of the walk through and the Feau teak vs carpet.

It ain't my money and I will never be able to afford either so you do what makes you the most satisfied. But if you are strictly buying an MC after ownning them and didn't even give the Nauti g23 a look your selling yourself short. Just my .02 after having a family that's owned 10 mc's. Most recently with a cousin owning a 2012 x25.

I'd agree that the G23 is a much better boat. But I think the Star is and always will be the boat that turns the most heads. MC's mammoth propaganda machine would have it no other way.

Most definitely is worth it. Have had mine for just about 2 weeks now. I don't wanna hijack this thread, so if you want pics or have questions about anything check out the other threads on here or shoot me a message.

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=793012

You posts are confusing . It seems you both love and hate both depending on the what others post . Do you have any opinion of your own or are you a go with the floe kind of guy.
I think the best advice is to check out ALL brands in your area . The best boat is the one that works best for you . That may not be the same as me or anybody else. Good luck with whatever you buy I hope it all works out for you.

New XStar + XStarRyan + G23 + MHunter:

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Why can't people write in a semi-readable way? There are good points being made here, but it took me like 3 re-reads to get what he was saying. Between the malapropisms and the lack of punctuation, this reads like a kid wrote it or someone fat fingered it on their phone. I'm just saying. Not to be a grammar nazi, but what the hell?

definitely need to test them both out and compare for yourself. they are both sweetboats. but if i had the money to go between the two, my choice would be the G23. I just like the interior of the thing, the wake always looks amazing and i think it looks better, but that's just me. it looks like it has a crap ton more room too. more usable room, not just bow room. and definitely more storage. But that's just my opinion.

Ha......... Well you are partly right my thumbs suck and to top it off I have a new phone that i hate. This iphone's screen is so small. I never proof read anyways as i didnt realize I was being graded. I am also doped up on norco after quad, sports hernia surgery. Yea u read that right......4 different tears............so my balls feel like they are in a vice and weigh 50lbs each.

NewXstar + XstarRyan + G23 + MHunter + Chattwake + A22 . We all have our favorites dont we?

I still can't believe nobody has told him to go look at a MB....

My posts may be confusing to you but I think everyone else has it figured out.

2013 Xstar versus an MB....if money is not issue - that's a pretty easy choice

^^it was a joke, i forgot to use my sarcasm font! my bad

um do you want to be friends? i will gladly shred with you on your new xstar!

So true:D

It's funny the people that complain about MB getting brought up in every thread are the ones that bring it up.

My vote is for the MasterCraft 300, why go cheap?
http://www.mastercraft.com/300/

Because you would have a wake like this.

As the hating continues on XstarRyan (although not nearly as bad as I thought it would be), we should at least consider one point. Dude has had the same boat since posting on here 7 years ago - even though it was crazy expensive, I think he does deserve some props/respect for that. A completely spoiled kid would have a different $100k+ boat every year (I know I would have if I were fortunate enough to have that kind of coin). How many of us have the same boat back from the original legendary XstarRyan thread? I know I've had several boats since then - just a thought. He seems like a good sport and was brave enough to come back for more.....

XstarRyan - I don't think you can go wrong with either the G23/new Star. They are both incredible in their own ways - I agree with some of the others on here that you would probably find the G23 to your liking as well (among other things, its a pretty flashy, eye catching boat). Spend some time on PlanetNautique - there are some excellent write-ups on that boat along with some great pictures. Have fun with your boat shopping - it should be one of the most enjoyable aspects of this sport and fun is what wakeboarding/boating should be all about.

Awesome, that doesn't look too fun. But with 10,000 lbs of ballast on the master bedroom floor....

People stare when you take her to lunch though.

I saw a few of those for sale on boattrader. They are asking WAY to much money for them. One was asking close to $400K if I remember right. You would be a fool to spend that on a 30 ft boat.

Might as well look at the Bu 247 MXZ with Plug and Play and Surfgate if we are up in those price ranges! haha

Oh.... and MB of course ha

once again it was a joke. never even been in an mb.

Sticking with the Xstar. I will admit the x300 is a cool boat, but that will be the boat to get after the Xstar.

The G23 looks to be a cool boat, however it's not a MC.

Lol...ok if thats how u pick boats than more power to you.

Tons of hate spewed on these forums and I'd like to compliment, and agree with, the post above. It's good to call someone out when they deserve, but too many are instigating the arguments.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...799#post226799

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...4192#post94192

Out of curiousity, why such brand loyalty? Did MC end up fixing the issues with your last boat? I can understand being loyal to a company that stands behind its products. I had some major issues with an xstar I owned second hand a looooooong time ago, and MC and no obligation to fix it for free, but that's exactly what happened.

I do have a level of respect and brand loyalty to MC. After my issues with my barbwire Xstar MC stepped up to the plate and gave me a brand new boat. I am happy to stick up for them as they did me right.

If you're sticking with Mastercraft, a bunch of people on here are saying the X-25 is their best boat right now. Something to think about. There's definitely been lots of talk about the X-Star having a tempermental wake.

Thats what happend to me last year. I purchased a 2011 X25 and deamed it a lemmon, MC took it back and allowed me to custom order a 2012 at no charge. That is why i am loyal to the brand.

Ryan, Be sure to post pics once you decide on colors. I would love to get a 2013 X-Star, but only if it came with a 'classic dash'.

Bj,

Just curious. If you had a lemon of an 11, now have a 12 with some issues I myself would consider major that no one can help electronically, why would you go with a 2013? I am definately familiar as my cousin has 2012 x 25 also thqt has a mind of its own sometimes. You have to draw the line somewhere no? Again just curious because if I had to deal with a nightmare of a lemon for 100k for an entire season, got a replacement that doesn't work either from the date of delivery, I sure as heck wouldn't be ordering a 2013 , brand loyalty aside.

/posting in epic thread

I for one can understand and appreciate brand loyalty . It would take a lot to make me switch brands. I do think you are doing yourself an injustice by not even looking at other brands. With all the builders stepping it up in the last few years you may just find a better fit. If nothing else it will confirm you made the right decision going with the Star. Good luck with your new boat.

+1 for what MHUNTER just said.

Quick question for the forum: Regarding the X-25, are any of the MC team riders riding behind this boat on a regular basis over the Star? I keep seeing ads in wakeboarding mags advertising the X-25 with pics of Rusy and Shane riding behind it (I've also heard this is MC's best boat right now) and was just curious if any of the team riders were really riding behind it.

End Hijack.

The X-25 hull would have been the new x-star but for 2 reasons. Marketing didn't think it was flashy enough and we you put A LOT of weight in it the wake will not stay clean.

The issues I had I considered minor. Everything except for the Software upgrade to fix the ballast and camera issues have been fixed and have worked very well since. Thus far, I have not had any more issues with the boat since my 10 hour service. :banghead: <- thats me knocking on wood:D

As far as going with a 2013, that would be if I could get a 'classic dash' (No screens), ZFT4, regulat zero off, standard ballast timers. I would be happy. As much as I love the high-tech gagets, I dont want them on my next boat.;)

I think its pure marketing hype. However I was talking with Zane back in Febuary, and he suggested his next boat was going to be an X25, but how knows.

I heard that the wake would be fine, but the real problem was its cornering. It cant turn as sharp as a star.

However I did notice (from Youtube Vids) that Harley Clifford was being pulled by a X25 for the WWA championships.

Jon/Bryan - thanks for the info regarding the X-25 vs Star. There is a new X-25 on our lake (guy hardly uses it) and it looks pretty sweet, so was wondering what the deal with it was. Does MC have any boats that you don't have to put a ton of weight in to get a decent wake? Maybe the X-1 and/or X-15? Seems like most of their boats you have to sac out - might just be my perception though.

Going to chime in here as what initially drew me to MC was riding behind my buddy's X25. Before the new Star and G23 I was looking to upgrade to either a 230 (from my current 210) or a 25. Without having actually been in a G23 yet I think the 25 is the nicest, best laid out boats period. And we run about 2500 lbs with no issues with dirty wake. It surfs like a champ too. Stretching this haul 18" would have made a killer star IMO.

It does leave something to be desired in the handling department though.

For wakeboarding I dont run any ballast in my X25. The wake school I rode with has a moomba LSV and upgraded fat sacs running about 1/2 full. All I can say is an empty X25's wake is much bigger than a weighted LSV. If I fill the stock ballast, the X25's wake is huge (Huge for me :))

I heard the new ones get spider cracks like crazy.

Bryan - wow, no ballast and has a wake worth riding? That's pretty awesome to hear. At the Boarding School, we rode Moye's 2011 Star with no factory ballast (big crew though of about 6-7 always in the boat, 500lbs lead tucked in nose) and I loved the wake - plenty large enough for me. Sounds like the X25 has a money wake too, even when not loaded down. I need to make friends with the guy on our lake with one :) Can you get a 7.4L Ilmore in an X25? That engine is crazy powerful and sounds really good too :)

X25 with stock ballast and 3 people in the boat is the most incredible wake I have ridden, and when we go out with a big crew for the day (10+ people) we usually go half ballast. I would say I am an intermediate rider who likes a big wake too. On my buddy's wakesetter we usually run a few thousand and its not nearly as nice.

Agreed. As I said, G23 aside as its so new yet. X25 best proven wake out there for surf or wake. Best interior too. I'm pretty sure it's far and away MCs best selling boats and prob one of the top 2 or 3 selling of any brand.

X25 sounds pretty awesome - I need to get a ride in one! I find the MC wakes a little easier to ride than some of the other boats out there too (my 2008 210 wake still gets the best of me every now and then, but its awesome when you hit it right).

What engines do you guys have in your X-25s? Anyone have an Ilmore?

I have the 6.0 Ilmor and find the power good, although I am considering re propping to get a bit more power when loaded up. I know a lot of people are having goo results with the stock Ilmor 5.7L.

In the engine category is where MC really shines. IMO far and away best engine family (Ilmor) in the industry. Period.