Florida rolled as projected. Tebow put up 2 touchdowns in limited time. <BR> <BR>OU goes down to BYU! <BR> <BR>Ohio State looked pathetic as usual. <BR> <BR>Is ND back?? <BR> <BR>Football season is here, so pumped!

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Cannot believe BYU beat Oklahoma.... Good win for the MWC..... <BR> <BR>Agreed.... Overrated State University lived up to their name..... <BR> <BR>SOOOO hope Washington beats LSU... <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Deuce on September 05, 2009)

go Cougs, just another reason to bring down the BCS and get a playoff. Now we need Oklahoma to have a good season unlike Michigan last year for the Utes.

The talk on ESPN about OU not being the same without Bradford in the line-up is odd to me. I watched from start to finish and OU offense didn't do much the entire game....start to finish. Not to say that losing your QB and the reigning Heisman candidate is not a kick in the Jimmy....but it was not like they were lighting it up in the first half.... <BR> <BR>Bradford played the entire first half and scored one touchdown, that being after a muffed punt that gave OU the ball at the 20ish.... <BR> <BR>Both teams were sloppy and made too many mistakes. BYU had 4 turnovers....

Agreed. <BR> <BR>Bama looked tough tonight.

I saw the same thing going on with OU EJ. They had no offense to start with, it was definately a fight on both ends of the ball and BYU came out ahead. <BR> <BR>I'm bummed the Dawg's lost last nigth to LSU but man that was a WAYYYY better turnout than I expected it to be.

GO BEARS!

Sad face with the Sooners loss. Sooners are going to have a tough season it seems. <BR> <BR><b>BOOMER SOONER</b>

Either Washington is going to be somebody to pay attention to, or LSU is highly overrated. Great game

Cal looked very good. <BR>GO BEARS!

agree on never dreamed ou would get beat by byu! maybe next time stoops is up by 40 he will give another qb some snaps. <BR> <BR>glad to see the osu cowboys beat the georgia bulldogs . great game.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0>

My alma mater is finally coming around GO VOLS! I can't remember the last time we had over 600 yards of offense. I know it was against WKU but in recent seasons we have struggled againse weak teams. So far I am liking the Lane Kiffin era.

hook em horns!

Bruizza, the Vols were fun to watch for sure - and for a change. The offense still has has issues to resolve (int's, tipped passes, and a fumble), but Hardesty looked pretty good, and Crompton is SO much better. And man, do the Vols have some talented freshmen! <BR> <BR>Next Saturday should be fun too, seeing as how UCLA struggled yesterday with its own issues. Now, as for the 19th - well, miracles CAN happen.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0>

Jeff I like the way you think. The 19th is going to be a huge game this year. I can't wait. I agree that Crompton looked strong even though he was throwing against a weak secondary, his passes were on the money. The "real" UT will have its first true test this week will UCLA. I am hoping that Kiffin will live up to the hype.

GOOOOOO BRUINS! <BR> <BR>I don't think we're "there" yet to the point where we can win at UT next Saturday. But I'll be watching and hoping, that's for sure.

Insuranceman, that game sucked. (obviously a GA fan.) The dawgs came out fine then thanks to our brilliant o coordinator we got nothin done the rest of the game. Not to mention our D missed about 7 easy interceptions.... Can you tell I'm not happy about another bad season for GA?

fogey I wish I could have watched the game but it wasn't on in Colorado. I can't wait to watch them play UCLA next weekend. We play Florida on my Bday so I am really hoping the Vols can win and give me one of the best Bday presents of my life!

I cannot believe that Florida has such a creampuff schedule this year. And LSU's is so tough. <BR> <BR>EJ you kno Pac-10 teams don't stackup with th SEC ... lol ;) <BR> <BR>Thought I would stir things up a little. <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

Go GATORS!

Ohhhh, here we go with the SEC is SOOO much better.. Nonsense. <BR>Lets get some score predictions on Ohio State and USC. <BR> <BR>I'll stir the pot a bit. I would put Cal, and USC against ANYBODY in the SEC...

Cal can try to make me a believer, but until they do..... 1 Conference title(shared) in 30 years is statement enough. EVERY YEAR is supposed to be Cal's year to do something.....and then..... <BR> <BR>USC, yes.....they can play with anyone in the country....year in and year out. They are in a class in CFB that includes VERY FEW TEAMS. <BR> <BR>I am not saying the SEC is sooo much better, just that the cream is better than the cream of most conferences. They also have a thicker level of cream than the PAC 10/BIG 10... <BR> <BR>BIG 12 and SEC appear to be a level above the PAC 10, BIG 10.... <BR> <BR>In fact....I'll go a step further, IMO, take USC out of the PAC 10 and you have a BIG EAST, ACC level conference. The BIG 10, most overrated conference in CFB EVERY YEAR.... <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>GO FRESNO....OVERTIME!!! Good if a Non-AQ team can win against a BIG 10 team.... <BR> <BR><b>EDIT for spelling</b>} <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Deuce on September 12, 2009)

lol there is always this arument. You know that, but the proof is in the play. Most Pac-10 guys say "this is a down year except for USC &amp; "insert random team" , they will kick anybody's ass. Then they get knocked off by an unranked nobody. <BR> <BR>This year: <BR> <BR>SEC - 1 <BR>PAC10 - 0

Gene let's not go too far with that SEC 1-0 versus PAC-10. I'm a Husky but let's face it we've lost 15 straight and took it to LSU. Not a good showing by the SEC there. And Oklahoma State laying the smack down on Georgia doesn't help. I think Alabama and Florida are legitimate title contenders but all the SEC is superior than everyone else is BS.

<a href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/usf/2009/08/bowl-records-how-the-conferences-stack-up.html" target="_blank">http://blogs.tampabay.com/usf/2009/08/bowl-records-how-the-conferences-stack-up.html</a> <BR> <BR>Let's just agree to disagree and call it the big 3 between the Pac-10, SEC, and Big-12.

lol I know it is WAY to early in the season to start making any tough talk or predictions. I actually do enter the start of the season with an open mind and don't put my SEC goggles on until mid season. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR>OK State beat Georgia, they did not smack them, which is not really surprising as they are a contendor in one of the best conferences in the nation and were ranked higher. OU got smacked because it was such an unexpected upset.

Exactly Ryan. Florida looses to a 9-4 MSU team, but its OK because its another SEC team. USC looses to a 9-4 Oregon State team, but its OSU so its not OK. Florida plays for the national title, meanwhile USC is beating the crap out of Penn State. Its nonsense. the Pac-10 goes 5-0 in bowl games, and the people with SEC goggles still cant get a clue. <BR> <BR>I know this is all last year, and its in the past. This year is different. Do you really think Florida would have beat SC last season.....

Here ya go Ryan..Ill go ahead and post it up <BR>Bowl records.... <BR> <BR>League 2008 2007 2006 2005 Overall <BR>Pac-10 4-0 3-1 3-1 2-2 12-4 <BR>SEC 5-1 5-2 5-3 3-3 18-9 <BR>Big 12 4-3 5-3 3-4 4-2 16-12 <BR>Big East 2-2 1-2 3-0 1-3 7-7 <BR>ACC 2-6 2-5 2-4 4-2 10-17 <BR>Big Ten 1-6 2-5 2-5 3-4 8-20 <BR>non-BCS 1-7 2-6 3-5 2-3 8-21

yes

Big 12?...Texas struggling against Wyoming? Ok St getting beat convincingly by Houston. Big 12, whatever...

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>By Craig A. (stillstandin) on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 2:38 pm: <BR> <BR>Big 12?...Texas struggling against Wyoming? Ok St getting beat convincingly by Houston. Big 12, whatever... <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>I will assume that Texas and Oklahoma State will be just fine.... It is early....

ok st. getting beat convincingly? last i checked, ok st. is up. <BR> <BR>ucla-tenn game is ugly! i bet though that paul's diggin' the current score (ucla up 19-10). <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

Craig: <BR> <BR>Last year florida <BR>RIPPED apart #4 lsu 51-21 <BR>RIPPED apart #8 Georgia 49-10 <BR>RIPPED apart #24 South Carolina 56-6 <BR>RIPPED apart #23 FLorida State 45-15 <BR>Beat #1 Bama 31-20 <BR> <BR>USC <BR>RIPPED a terribly overated OSU <BR>RIPPED oregon <BR>beat cal. <BR> <BR>Cmon now.

COULD NOT BE HAPPIER FOR MICHIGAN! <BR> <BR>Only team that is historically more overrated than Ohio State.....Notre Dame.

Eric, typical SEC fan. I can spin USC's schedule the same way you did. I dont think Florida would have beat SC last year, my opinion, and many out here on the west coast that know the SEC has been overated <BR> <BR>oh by the way, UCLA over Tennessee. Let the SEC excuses begin..

the big ten the is most overated conf in college football.mishigan and ohio state lead the list of overated teams every year in that order.

Craig: <BR>No you really cant. <BR> <BR>Im glad Tennessee went down, there coach is an idiot who better start worrying about teams like UCLA before calling out Florida. <BR> <BR>The pac ten has two quality teams. USC can keep scheduling OSU, but thats not cutting it anymore. Dont blow easy games and play a weak conference.

FIRMLY IN THE HATE OHIO STATE CAMP.... not another team I have a bigger distaste for, save Notre Dame. <BR> <BR>But they are the real deal. Pryor is a STUD... Tough loss tonight to a VERY good team.

Fun to watch ND and tOSU go down in close exciting games. Great day. <BR> <BR>GO BEARS!

hey Eric, I fixed your post for you <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Craig: <BR> <BR>Last year florida <BR>RIPPED apart unranked lsu 51-21 <BR>RIPPED apart <b>#10</b> Georgia 49-10 <BR>RIPPED apart unranked South Carolina 56-6 <BR>RIPPED apart <b>#23</b> FLorida State 45-15 <BR>Beat <b>#6</b> Bama 31-20 <BR> <BR>USC <BR>RIPPED a terribly overated <b>#11</b> OSU <BR>RIPPED <b>#9</b> oregon <BR>beat <b>#25</b> cal.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR>I don't care if every team you faced was #1 at the time. Only thing that matters is how they finished the season. The rankings that you see are the end-of-season USA Today rankings, which are used in the BCS rankings (BCS ranks teams up 'till bowl season, but not afterwards). <BR> <BR>EJ- not too fair to put USC on such a pedestal and then knock on Cal for not having many conference titles. It's either one or the other, IMO. But yes, I do agree that Cal has laid eggs in the past but I think that if there were a year to turn people into believers then it'll be this one. USC @ Cal on October 3.

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>USC can keep scheduling OSU, but thats not cutting it anymore.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>talk to me when florida quits scheduling teams like charleston southern, troy and florida international.

Exactly, Florida's schedule does not cut it. USC did not look that great tonight, give credit to Ohio St. for playing them tough. USC is going to have to pick it up to get through the Pac-10.... <BR> <BR>By the way, Im not a SC fan.. I hope Cal kills them. <BR> <BR>Eric, do I need to point out that LSU, barely got through the worst team in the Pac-10 last year... SEC=OVERATED

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>By scott a (scott_a) on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 8:47 pm: <BR> <BR>EJ- not too fair to put USC on such a pedestal and then knock on Cal for not having many conference titles. It's either one or the other, IMO. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>I understand and fair enough....but quick calculation....in the last 30 years - <BR> <BR>USC has 14 Conference titles <BR>Washington has 7 <BR>UCLA has 7 <BR>ASU has 3 <BR>Oregon has 3 <BR>Stanford has 2 <BR>Washington State has 2 <BR>Zona has 1 <BR> <BR>You can actually add to the Washington, USC and UCLA titles if you want to go back to the '74 Cal title. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>SEC is split 6 as far as I can tell.....(have some alcohol on board, so don't quote my math) <BR>Florida with 9 <BR>'Bama, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee and LSU with 5

Sorry, but Umali nailed it. <BR>Florida paid 750K to Charleston Southern to play them in game one. <BR>Tennessee is going to pummel them.

Have to check in and rub it in a little toward my good friend Jeff. GO BRUINS! <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

Man do my VOLS Suck!!!! <BR>Im not Saying UCLA is a bad team but to have 1st and goal from the 5 and not be able to score!!! At Home!!!! With the Game on the line!!! Are you kidding me!!! <BR> <BR>Damn . Its going tobe a nother frustrating season for us VOLS fans. But nonetheless I will stick by them thru thick and thin!! <BR> <BR>Great USC win last night though. Very impressive last drive.

GettingOlder - Florida paid 450k to charlerston and if you kno anything about college football alot of big name schools do this. <BR> <BR>Joe - Urban meyer is brilliant for putting this schedule together. You go undefeated and win the SEC, your going to the national championship. Thats how the system works, like it or not.. brilliant.

EJ - pyror is a stud?! haha I hope your kidding. Heck of an athlete terrible QB.

Eric, <BR>I agree. When your already a top 5 team there is no need to play a hard out of conference schedule. The SEC is hard enough week in and week out. Florida doesn't need to get beat up anymore often than they do in the SEC. Take your easy wins and Play hard in Conference and you set yourself up for the Big Dance!! <BR> <BR>Now if your like a Utah or BYU or Boise St. who play in a weaker division then you have to play a tough outside conference schedule to get some respect and national coverage. <BR>Big team in the Big 12, SEC, Pac 10 dont have to prove themselves outside of conference cause they prove it every week in conference. <BR> <BR>But I do want someone to beat Florida and have an interview with a player after the game when he says " The Devil was on our side today and we kicked God's next savior's ASS"

UCLA looked good, Paul. That was a win that you (and my brother!) had a lot of reason to enjoy. Plus, the QB took a lickin' and kept on tickin', and the whole team got better as the game went on. No excuses here - y'all beat us, on the road, fair and square.

GO BLUE!

What an atmosphere they have at Tenn. I'm still in shock the Bruins went in there and won. Tenn seems good to me, they just need a QB. <BR> <BR>Some Bruin fans posted some pics and writeups from their trip to the game. They just gushed about how awesome the atmosphere is there and how great the UT fans are.

Tennesee, Bama, and LSU have the greatest atmosphere for football in the SEC for sure. <BR> <BR>It does kindasuck that Florida has such a light schedule. It really puts alot of the other good SEC teams at a disadvantage.

Eric, thanks for the college football clarification. I guess that I was off by a few hundred grand makes it OK. <BR>Understand, I have no issue with schools paying to play other schools. However, the fact that Florida can play a school such as Charleston Southern in their schedule while being the supposed #1 team is laughable. Seriously.

#2 Texas played lousiana-monroe <BR>#3 USC played San jose st <BR> <BR>Your argument is laughable. Seriously.

not really MAgellan...it happens in all college sports..and even in the pro's... <BR> <BR>in college we used to play some of the minor league teams while we were down there for our spring trip. in basketball there's all the pre-season tournaments where its (insert top 5 team name here) and then a bunch of non-top 25 teams. <BR> <BR>Florida playing CSU was not only good for Florida but for CSU as well. CSU gets paid and their kids get to play in against the top team in the country. its not really that big of a deal. hell sometimes those I-AA schools give the big boys a run for their money. remember App. State and Michigan?

Tennessee losing was not that big of a shocker. I mean they were horrible last year! <BR> <BR>The problem I have with the PAC-10 and Big Ten is that they have no title game. That really puts the SEC/Big Twelve at a disadvantage in that it could easily knock you out of the championship hunt. <BR> <BR> <BR>LET'S GET A PLAYOFF THEN EVERYONE CAN QUIT BITCHING!!

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>#2 Texas played lousiana-monroe <BR>#3 USC played San jose st <BR> <BR>Your argument is laughable. Seriously.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> UF out of conference games: <BR>2009: Charleston Southern (I-AA), Troy St, Florida Int'l, Florida State <BR>2008: Hawaii, Miami, Citadel (I-AA), Florida St <BR>2007: Western Kentucky*, Troy St, Florida Atlantic, Florida St <BR>*2007 was WKU's first season in I-A, so this game was scheduled while they were still a I-AA. <BR> <BR>USC <BR>2009: San Jose St, Ohio St, Notre Dame <BR>2008: Virginia, Ohio St, Notre Dame <BR>2007: Idaho, Nebraska, Notre Dame <BR> <BR>If you can't see a difference in these two out of conference schedules, you're insane. I didn't list Texas' schedule because even though it's terrible like Florida's, UT fans see it for what it is and don't try and justify it like SEC people do.

The Huskies won a game. I don't care what else happened in college football. UW won a game. Actually I do care about something else. Wazzu looked like a high school team and got embarrased.

I never said there was not a difference, i was talking about opening games. Its a way for teams to get back in the weekly routine of how things are done. Its also a great opportunity for the teams such as Charleston southern. The fact that florida paid Charleston southern to come pay is not a big deal and happens ALOT around college football.

and yet, you rip on usc for scheduling tOSU.

"I didn't list Texas' schedule because even though it's terrible like Florida's, UT fans see it for what it is and don't try and justify it like SEC people do." <BR> <BR>Pahahaha! <BR> <BR> <BR>I'm at the University of Arkansas, and everyone here is all but convinced that Arkansas should be ranked just for winning a game, and being in the SEC. As a student at an SEC school, I can attest to the fact that we have the most ignorant and obnoxious fans. <BR> <BR> <BR>GO HOGS!

no comment from tonight's bsu-fsu game? sure was fun to watch but where was the defense?

We're getting ripped on these calls, ridiculous!

I can't believe some of the calls going Minnesota's way..

Big 10 officiating is impressively bad this year it seems. <BR> <BR>Fortunately, Cal escaped with the W. That's really all the positive stuff I have to say about the final 3 quarters of play. Sheesh. Cal has been impressive so far but it's like they're just trying to mess with their fans and make them remember the Cal squad of previous years before putting 2 more TDs on the boards. Jerks! <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

Wholly Crap! <BR> <BR>The Dawgs are going to put USC to bed!

holy crappppppp! biggest kick of that dude's life lol!

U-FREAKIN'-DUB!!! Yeah, Dawgs!!

Wow....just wow. I expected a shoot out but the Dawgs D showed up big time today.

HAHAHAHAHA! <BR> <BR>FUSC IMO!!!!!

U DUBZ BACK BABY!!!! DO THE DAWGS ROCK THIS MUTHA PHUKA?

and down goes Southern Cal !!! <BR>lots of timely turnovers helped the Dawgs pull of the upset. Hey SC, thanks fer half yer coaching staff! <BR>UW is back

It's an anomaly, Dawgs still suck

lol ... who was it that said that <BR> <BR>Lol Craig says <BR>"LSU barely got through the worst team in the PAC10 last year" and <BR>"I would put Cal, and USC against ANYBODY in the SEC" <BR>"Either Washington is going to be somebody to pay attention to, or LSU is highly overrated." <BR> <BR>Spoken like a "typical" PAC1- fan ... ;) <BR> <BR>Like I said before. It is to early in the season to make any dumb predictions. It is entertaining though. <BR> <BR>Last year has almost nothing to do with last year. Especially in college football where anything can happen.

BTW ... speaking of weak schedules... Cal has exactly one ranked team on their schedule and that media baby team just got beat. ;)

10 points? TEN POINTS over unranked Tennessee? Sorry Gator Nation, but it's official now: Florida is over-rated.

Florida looked bad no doubt, got to get that pass game rolling and stretch the field a little. We will see how it all plays out... they got to get healthy first half the team has the flu.

That's the way to get the USC fans fired up Paul. What should we do to get UCLA fans fired up? Put an F in front of it?