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Caleb_Sankey 01-11-2018 12:34 PM

Pop on Cable
 
How do you get better pop at a cable park? Do you pull your weight back to have more tension?

gnarslayer 01-11-2018 10:38 PM

are you looking for pop off kickers or airtricks?

fly135 01-12-2018 6:42 AM

or pop on an ollie.

gnarslayer 01-12-2018 7:16 AM

Just make sure to really bring that front foot up first, then follow with your rear foot until your board is level that way you don't get any suction to the water.

main thing would just to practice repetitively until you kind of feel it out. I like to find small obstacles like a box or something to ollie on then find something a little bigger in the park and just keep moving up to bigger things slowly when I work on ollie tricks.

Sometimes you will see people ollie 5+ feet high onto obstacles, but its not really an ollie, its more of a halfload to where you mix a scoop with an ollie. That would be really hard to explain over text though lol.

but yeah dude just practice A LOT and your ollies will improve a ton.

Caleb_Sankey 01-15-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gnarslayer (Post 1973373)
Just make sure to really bring that front foot up first, then follow with your rear foot until your board is level that way you don't get any suction to the water.

main thing would just to practice repetitively until you kind of feel it out. I like to find small obstacles like a box or something to ollie on then find something a little bigger in the park and just keep moving up to bigger things slowly when I work on ollie tricks.

Sometimes you will see people ollie 5+ feet high onto obstacles, but its not really an ollie, its more of a halfload to where you mix a scoop with an ollie. That would be really hard to explain over text though lol.

but yeah dude just practice A LOT and your ollies will improve a ton.

I can ollie a little bit, but I just don't get how others at the cable park can ollie onto obstacles that are tall like you said. That really impresses me, just is crazy to me because I can only get like 8" - 1' high. Do you load the rope with your body weight and use that to put you up? How does that work?

gnarslayer 01-16-2018 10:38 AM

loading the rope and an ollie would be 2 different things

at first your ollie will be quite small as your timing and your body just doesn't have a feel for it yet.

but pushing that front foot down, then pulling back up, then following with your rear foot up is how its pretty much done. overtime being repetitive and practicing over and over, your ollie will increase every day. obviously you will plateau at some point to where your muscles cant push any harder but i can guarantee you will at least triple your ollie height from where you are at now.

I wouldnt worry about loading the rope at the moment, there will be a time later down the road for that so dont rush it

Stimulated 03-20-2018 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gnarslayer (Post 1973508)
loading the rope and an ollie would be 2 different things

at first your ollie will be quite small as your timing and your body just doesn't have a feel for it yet.

but pushing that front foot down, then pulling back up, then following with your rear foot up

If you push your front foot down - is there a danger of burying the front edge and faceplanting?

VinnyA 03-20-2018 9:17 PM

Simon - no, you can take your entire body weight and put it on your front foot, and not bury the front edge. It's kind of incredible.
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Stimulated 03-21-2018 3:02 AM

That's crazy! Going to try riding switch and some Ollies tomorrow if the wind keeps the bay flat.

VinnyA 03-21-2018 5:23 AM

have fun! It's really something enjoyable to play around with.

Just think about it as a rhythm the way JB said; (down with the front foot, down with the back foot, up with the front foot & up with the back foot).
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Stimulated 03-22-2018 2:26 AM

OK - tried riding switch and found myself in a really odd position, sort of crouched backward. It's like learning for the first day all over again. Sussed out Surface 180s pretty well. Ollies - I tried pushing down on the front and then on the back and got the front of the board out of the water but couldn't get the back to leave the water. Just practice I suppose. Enjoyed it a lot though.

fly135 03-22-2018 8:54 AM

Switch riding has always been tough for me. It always feels awkward compared to regular. Even though everything is symmetrical it sure doesn't feel that way.

Wakeska89 03-22-2018 2:27 PM

My favorite advice when learning to ride switch was from Shaun Murray in the Detention Instructional video he put out way back in the day. He said the awkward feeling when riding switch is a simply mental block that can be overcome by relaxing. Kind of like you said above, it's like learning to ride all over again. Every now and then I dedicate a few laps at the cable, or a boat set to just doing everything switch. Switch riding opens so many doors, and it has even made my regular riding more consistent. Totally worth it.
I second what JB said about doing ollies onto obstacles. Having an obstacle in front of me is when I really started noticing progression in my ollies. Ollie onto the flat boxes with on ramps just to get your confidence up and then work your way to the taller ones. That's what I did and my ollies just kept getting better. You'll be popping over barrels and onto the higher obstacles in no time.


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