I currently have a scape but after riding my friend's byerly im looking to upgrade <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0>, Im looking at either the Hyperlite Karma 105 or the Gator Doyle Pro Model 40.5 Both boards seem identically built except the karma just has that unique shape to it which looks like it will have more pop, but I need your opinions

Most people either love or hate the Karma, but I ride a Byerly so I can't say.

I too ride the Byerly, but have been on the Karma a few times and did like the pop with the kicktails. Try to demo that Karma if you can or keep riding your friends Byerly!!! <BR> <BR>

Jamie, I noticed you're from belton, I'm from parkville, where do you ride most?

The main differance besides that, that I have seen is that the Doyle is a little more weighted on the sides to make for an easier kick and heel flip. <BR> <BR>Danny T. <BR><a href="http://WWW.OKCBOARDSHOP.COM" target="_blank">WWW.OKCBOARDSHOP.COM</a> <BR>

get the GB

Go cassette....a-sym or bi-level ...both amazing <BR>

Or you could check out <a href="http://www.integrity-wake.com" target="_blank">www.integrity-wake.com</a> <BR> <BR>They are making a new pro model for Nick Taylor. Its going to be a 40 in model. I would wait for that. If you want any more info let me know. <BR> <BR>Vance

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