I am in the beginning stages of looking for a new boat. I'm only looking to spend somewhere in the 11-14K range and am really looking for an open bow. I recently came across and 91' euro f3. Does anyone have any experience with the boat and the kind of wake it can throw when weighted. The boat looks to set pretty low in the water as is so I'm worried it may not be able to take too much weight. If anyone has any info that would be great. Thanks

I know nothing about that boat but I have seen some MC 205's around that price. Those boats are awsome and whith a little weight are great wkeboarding baots

The F-3 actually has a fairly nice wake. Try running two #600 pound sacks. One down each side of the engine cover.

Thanks walt, do you think you could run more weight in the boat? Say maybe a sofa in back and then some in a ski locker or up front? And yes, I'm am definately looking for an older MC 205 but the prices are just all over the place on those things. I'm hopin to get lucky on something but just want to keep an open mind about some other boats. Anymore opinions on the f-3 would be great.

I like mine for wake boarding. I run two 500lb sacks, each side of the engine, and a sack in the ski locker. The wake is typically knee high. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/226069.jpg" alt=""> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/226070.jpg" alt=""> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/226071.jpg" alt="">

I have a 1989 Sunsetter and last season I ran a fat seat in the rear which I believe is around 1000 lbs and the boat could probably handle another 500 lbs. You may need to change the prop to an ACME and do some minor engine mods with that kind of weight though.

i have a 1990 euro f3 <BR> i run a 1500pd fat seat in back <BR>and around 300pd in the bow ,concrete or sand bags <BR>wake is decent

Shawn had one.Nothing wrong with it.I dug the wake.NICE.

Here is a post I made a few weeks ago with some pics. <BR> <BR><a href="http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=39576&amp;highlight=" target="_blank">http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=39576&amp;highlight=</a> <BR> <BR>I load mine up with a fat seat in the rear, a 280# sac on each side of the engine, a locker sac, and about 250# of lead. Total about 2200#. I had to put on a new ACME 10.5 pitch prop, but it runs great and accelerates well with this prop. The wake pic is either at 65 or 70 feet out. You have to be careful when driving, as when you stop and have to go through rollers, but with careful driving it's not a big deal. Inexperienced drivers like my wife will get rollers over the front, but not enough that has really concerned me yet. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by atropine on April 30, 2005)

Sam, <BR> <BR>Do you know what Acme prop you are using - is it the 525? Thanks

Rob- <BR>I think it is a 913, but I am not 100% sure. It is a 10.5 pitch, LH rotation, 1" shaft. I think 13" diameter. I just called ACME, told them what boat I have and how much I was weighting it down, and bought the prop they recommended. It made a HUGE difference. Tremendous hole shot improvement, with not much loss of top end speed (maybe 39mph now instead of 41mph).

Thanks for the info. <BR>Sam, <BR>Do you buy chance know the exact length of your boat?

Joe- <BR>I just went out to the garage and measured. The boat itself is 20'4" without the swim platform attached (it unclips in about 15 seconds). From the farthest back portion of the boat to the tip of the trailer tongue is 22'2". I had to cut 10" out of the trailer tongue and have it rewelded in order to get this thing to fit in my garage. As is, I currently have about a 2" gap between the boat and the garage door, and about a 1.5" gap between the boat and the back of the garage. It is a very tight fit, but it allows me to store the boat in my garage, so it is close by and temperature fluctuations are much more moderate. It also saves me a monthly storage fee.

Sam, <BR> <BR>Could you check the model number next time you are out it should say on the prop - wakeside.com recommends a 525 for 1000lbs of ballast and a 653 or 2000lbs and stock is a 515. Just curious as I would like to change up my prop some day. However power may not be an issue as I need a new motor and my mechanic hopes the new one he is building me will be close to 300 horse.

Hi Rob- <BR>I just checked again, and it definitely is a #913. 13x10.5, LH rotation, 1" shaft, 3-blade. The recs on wakeside's website don't really apply to boats of our age, I believe. Have you called ACME directly?

Sam <BR>Thanks alot for checking, garage space is obviously an issue for me.