has anyone used one yet? they came out a couple months ago and I havent heard anything about them. <BR>

I don't think they are shipping yet - I've checked a couple of larger dealers and they don't have them listed. For the money I think I'd go with the Panasonic over the XL2.

well they didnt come out a couple months ago they announced them which is different. Ive heard that they will be released later this month. I have not used one but im sure that it will be a great comera considering how good the XL1S is. PAnnosonic is good as well so dont disclude them.