ok ive seen many people do them but Ive never tryed... right now im working on hs fs 3s, bs 180, hs wrapped bs 3s and I want to try a ts 3 but I was wondering if trying it wrapped is easyer or harder? and also I want to try a TS BS Wrapped 180s are they easyer than doing a handle pass

I just want to start learning more tricks other than 180s so help! are wrapped spins easyer for a beginner? <BR>ex: <BR>ts fs wrapped 3 <BR>ts bs wrapped 3 <BR>hs bs wrapped 3 <BR>hs fs wrapped 3

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Evan, <BR>Here's a trick tip for the wrapped TS BS 180. You can watch myself and arron aubrey do this trick in the delta sessions video and "untouchable sound" <a href="http://www.offcell.com" target="_blank">www.offcell.com</a> <BR>TiP: The wrapped ts bs 180 is actually a very simple trick to master. I usually have my student learn it 1 wake first and then have them take it wake to wake. <BR>Here's the explaination if your regular footed(left foot foward)To learn it one wake you want to wrap up and cut out about 5-8 feet. Take a mellow cut in, to keep you from getting thrown off axis. Keep all of the pressure on the front hand(left). Once you pop into the air, pull(and push down) on the rope with your front hand(which is still on the wrap handle) behind your back and towards your right hip.(you can practice this on land) This will start your rotation. Let go of the front handle(left hand) and look over your right shoulder towards the boat and the opposite shoreline(This will continue your rotation and allow you to spot your landing)Spot the landing, absorbe it with your legs and ride away. <BR>When you're ready to learn it wake to wake: Try a couple practice jumps where you're only holding onto the rope with your front hand(left hand). When you pop across the wakes the handle should remain close to your hips. (If its being pulled away from you, then try not leaning so hard against the boat on your cut. Instead, bend your knees to creat speed) Once you're able to do this practice exercise, just combine it with the 1 wake bs 180 and you're set. <BR> <BR>If you're still having trouble, come out to my <a href="http://westcoastcamps.com" target="_blank">http://westcoastcamps.com</a> and I'll personally Guarantee that I'll have you landing this trick and many others. <BR> <BR>Mike Schwenne <BR>Camp Director <BR>West Coast Camps <BR><a href="http://www.westcoastcamps.com" target="_blank">www.westcoastcamps.com</a> <BR><a href="http://www.thewakeboardcamp.com" target="_blank">www.thewakeboardcamp.com</a> <BR><a href="http://www.wakeboardcamp.tripod.com" target="_blank">www.wakeboardcamp.tripod.com</a> <BR><a href="http://www.wakeboardcamp.bravehost.com" target="_blank">www.wakeboardcamp.bravehost.com</a>

Mike thanks very much ill try that out... Mike I wish I could come to your camp but im up in Canada and its alittle far to get down to Cali... but thanks anyway

is it easyer to do this? <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3184/101211.jpg" alt="">

No, that's a completely different trick. If you're rapping up for a ts bs 180 there is no way to land like that. If you do the trick without the wrap or a handle pass you will land like that. However, if you don't have spins down and landing wrapped down, I wouldn't advise learning this way. If you want to do a TS fs 3, than landing wrapped isn't as difficult for that trick. <BR> <BR>Mike Schwenne <BR><a href="http://www.westcoastcamps.com" target="_blank">www.westcoastcamps.com</a>