This is the wake from a 2000 Chappy 205Se with a monster tower, 400lbs in the front cuddy, and 4 guys in the boat. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479114.jpg" alt="Upload">

Looks insanely small. I would hate to ride behind that.

damn, easy

Its better than no boat at all! And its not the greatest picture to be looking at wake size...

yeah, not all of us have mommys and daddys to buy us wakesetter vlx's

Looks great, espically for an i/o..

damn....than my wake must be really small....<IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":-(" BORDER=0> but ya not everybodys parents can afford a brand new wakeboat

i wish i had towers and some fatsacs, looks pretty decent, brad, not everyones parents has 2 wakeboats... way to be an ass <BR> <BR>the right wake seems a little rampier, is your i/o similar where if you turn a little bit one way it makes that wake cleaner/rampier?

i wasnt trying to be an ass. i'm just used to having about 3000 lbs of ballast in the boat &amp; a wake up to my waist. it does look like his wake has a snappy look to it instead of rounded peak. <BR> <BR>and for the record, i dont own two wakeboats, i just have rich friends. haha

oh yeah. 1999 24' chaparrel. i/o skylon. no additional weight. duo-prop outdrive. best i/o i've ever been behind. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479166.jpg" alt="Upload">

"i would hate to ride behind that boat" dude are you serious...how are you not trying to be an ass? <BR>you must be such a badass only riding with 3000 pounds and a wake up to your waist...i bet you kill it bro!!

nice!

At the moment that wake doesn't look awesome, but it has potential. I've ridden behind a '97 190hp Monterey (i/o) for 10 years, and by now have kind of figured out how to get a good wake out of it. Get a lot of fat sacs, I put close to 2000 lbs in my boat (and i'm guessing my boat is smaller since yours is a 205). I put 700#s up front, 400 in the locker, and another 550 on top of the locker but more towards the back. Then trim up about a 1/4 - 1/3 of the way and dial in that wake, you'll be amazed brotha. Don't let people get down on your boat, i bet you'll be better than most the people with wakeboard boats soon anyway. Good luck, and remember that the main thing is to have a good time!

If I had to I'd ride behind a bass boat. Looks like you have it about as good as your going to get it!

To be honest I am not to happy with this pic. I think the wake cleans up a lot better. I am on lake erie in Buffalo NY and we deal with some crappy water. I am planning on snapping some new pics soon and I will repost to get some more feed back. We have been working on improve the wake forever. Added 4blade prop, fatsac+400lbs of sand up front. <BR>thanks for the feedback.

sounds like a good start. put around half of whatever weight you put in the back up front (i.e. 1000 back/500 front)

unless my swim platform is 6 inches underwater, i dont ride hahahaha

seconded ^^^

I'm with Travis. You can progress a lot behind your boat, I wouldn't worry about it. I put close to 1000lbs of ballast in my I/O and put the trim up a 1/4 of the way and it puts up a nice wake. My nephew can pull off back rolls, front rolls, 360 w2w on a 70' line. Technique is almost everything.

I'm with Travis. You can progress a lot behind your boat, I wouldn't worry about it. I put close to 1000lbs of ballast in my I/O and put the trim up a 1/4 of the way and it puts up a nice wake. My nephew can pull off back rolls, front rolls, 360 w2w on a 70' line. Technique is almost everything.

"i wasnt trying to be an ass. i'm just used to having about 3000 lbs of ballast in the boat &amp; a wake up to my waist. it does look like his wake has a snappy look to it instead of rounded peak. <BR> <BR>and for the record, i dont own two wakeboats, i just have rich friends. haha" <BR> <BR>and for the record....... your profile picture makes me laugh, I hope that big air u got wasn't with a waist high wake <BR>wake looks decent for an IO, work on it, it'll get better

its not the size of your wake, but how you use it ! <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

^TRUE, maybe Im just jealous of ppl with slammed boats, I ride boats with stock ballast and consistently see photos such as his profile where basically I'd be embarassed to get that little air off sucha huge wake "not tryin to be an ass"

Yea I'm pretty sure they came here for advice and not to hear someone be an ass . . . Just my .02

Jeff, that wake looks like it has decent shape and is crisp even under some chop. It isn't big, but you should be able to do basic inverts and spins no problem.

sorry heres the pic<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479366.jpg" alt="Upload">

20ft I/O with 4-5 people trimmed little more than 1/4 up

Robert, <BR> <BR>How much weight do you put on you boat and do you have a cuddy?

i was wondering if someone was going to call him out on his profile pick. im not trying to be an ass either

Robert what Boat is that?

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>i wasnt trying to be an ass<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>That's the worst kind - he wasn't trying, yet he still was an ass. Must come natural to some people. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

damn peter he said sorry y is everyone always trying to fight all the time on here?

<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479453.jpg" alt="Upload">

LMFAO

robert, that wake looks pretty solid! Get that rope up higher and you should have a sweet ride!

hahaaaa, classy. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/rofl.gif" border=0>

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>damn peter he said sorry<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>Did he? I must have missed that.

Gotta love guys that bash others rides, when they are bumming rides from buddies. I'd rather board behind a POS, then not have a boat at all. I'd hate it if I had to depend on friends for pulls.

Actually, he did not say he was sorry. He said he was "not trying" to be an ass. That is not the same as an apology. An apology would be a good move on his part. <BR> <BR>This happens all the time, somebody new to WakeWorld comes on and posts a mean-spirited attack on somebody they don't know. Please do not act like Brad is the victim here. Brad drew first blood, perhaps he did not realize that there are lots of bored folks on WakeWorld with photoshop skills and time on their hands. We've seen this plenty of times. Sometimes the public spanking will cease after a true apology and making of amends, but as noted, we haven't heard that yet. <BR> <BR>Jeff, don't worry about it, get your ride on and have fun, buddy. My first invert was behind a Chapparal 23' with no extended pylon and no extra weight. Work on your edging and your fundamentals, make sure you ride switch as much as you can and learn your toeside jumps. I've been wakeboarding since it was invented, skiing since I was 6. I'd rather ride behind an i/o or even an outboard wake with somebody cool who is having fun, rather than riding a slammed wakeboat with somebody who is obnoxious and doesn't get what it's really about, and I've done plenty of both to know the difference.

Brad sure got quiet all of a sudden...<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

WOW!, thats all i have to say <BR>im out !!! <BR>im over listen to everyone bag on each other, <BR>everyone just picks apart what people say and most people think they know and r always right about everything <BR>so to everyone that i know on this site hit me up lets ride and i hope to see you all at the thanksgiving ride at berryessa <BR> im out !!!!!! <BR>YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!! <BR> as my good buddy said and its one of the best quotes ever "RIDE FOR YOURSELF"

Brad, is that a porn 'stache of some sort?

Here's my 17 ft Glastron with two fat sacs (one in ski locker, one behind the rear bench, plus my wife and daughter in boat. Would prefer a wakeboat, but our local lake only allows boats with outboards. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479619.jpg" alt="Upload">

Kalen, <BR>Is that photo you posted Danny Bonaduce ? <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

why rich?

Forget the advice of putting "half up front as you do in the back" while that is good advice on wakeboats I/O's do well with front weight. <BR> <BR>Looks pretty good, and I would ride it. <BR> <BR>Has anyone ever seen a "waist high wake"? I sure would like to see it.....

Brett, <BR> <BR>The lake is privately owned and it has more to do with tradition than sound reasoning. I ask every spring, but so far no change to the policy. I could drive to other lakes (live less than 5 minutes from this lake) but many times when we are boating in the evening, we are the only boat out there.

that sucks, although it would be nice to have that water every night... what happens if u dont follow the lame rule?

that photoshop was the funniest thing ever!!! seems like the best photo shops are the the ones that take the least amount of time

photoshop!?! ha that looks top notch paint work right there. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/crazy.gif" border=0>

Everyone in the area knows the policy so if you want to boat here, you buy an outboard. Visitors with i/o's or inboards that come in not knowing the rules are usually turned away.

that pic was funny. I spit my coffee out. I like the boat....u571 <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

So I/O's Do Better With More Weight In The Front ?

Yes we have a I/O's an our promblem is we can't get enough weight in the front. We have two rear fat sacs in the back and one in the ski locker. But the wake will get a lot cleaner and bigger with the more weight we get in the front. The only problem is that people want to sit in the back of the boat so they can watch the rides instead of the front. I would not follow the 60/40 for I/O's you really just have to find what works best .Also the more weight in the back makes the boat hard to control

I agree with Zach, more weight in the front will really help. All boats are different, move the weight around to find what works best for your boat.

by the way, I love the drawing above. Got a good laugh out of that.

seriously, i wasn't bashing that guy. it was a joke. obviously some ppl take stuff too seriously <BR> <BR>^^but that is a pretty good photoshop picture above haha.

Another classic WakeWorld tactic: say something infammatory and provocative, then act like it should have obviously been "a joke" and act like OTHER people were in the wrong and lacking a sense of humor. LAME!!! <BR> <BR>Dude, read your original post. There was nothing joking about that, and it's silly for you to suggest that it should have been taken with humor. You could end this easily, but you still choose not to. Still no owning what you did. Still no ability to take an honest look at yourself. You're 19, stop acting like a middle-school girl. Be a man.

^ Word . . . Tommy and Zach, Hey thanks for the I/O weight info. I'm gonna try that out tonight and see how it works with more weight in the front

I'm with Josh, outa here to go ridin. Pics of wake to follow for comment. <BR> <BR>Now, if i can just get her started <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479926.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by stxr_racer on July 24, 2007)

Damn Where's Brad When You Need Him ?

Brad, swallow your pride and just say your sorry. It may not have been your intention, but it was perceived that way. It shouldn't be hard to just say sorry.

Not all of us can have rich friends either!

^ Word

ha, that is great. Thanks Kalen

"Not all of us can have rich friends either!" <BR> <BR>thats true. I would take GOOD friends over rich ones any day. <BR> <BR>Brad, you sound like the guy that shows up late, never helps and bitches the whole time. I'm sure your friends appreciate it, but we don't. <BR> <BR>As mentioned, grow up

I have a friend like that god he's an ass

<a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6091417"><The Picture!></a> <BR> <BR>thats my 2000 chappy, no ballast and only 3 people in the boat, not that big but fun <BR> <BR>(Message edited by bartush on July 24, 2007)

this is my 07 180 fourwinns, only 2 people in the boat, small wake but still fun<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/479973.jpg" alt="Upload">

Rick, <BR>I got a 98 180 Horizon Four Winns and can seem to get a little larger wake than that pic shows. What do you have your trim set at? Weight? The bright might washing out the pic a little. We ride a 65' rope, trim up 1/4 from full down and 22-24 mph. Seems to be the only way we can get the wake to firm up. Give it a try.

I was sorry from the beginning. I never meant to cause such a riot over a post. And I'm not trying to swallow my pride, if I was, I would never have replied.

And I broke my ankle today trying a 5 on a new board. So I guess most of you will think karma caught up to me ;)

^^^ Maybe your wake's too big......? <BR> <BR>Hey Bevan, I enjoyed the anchor "buddy" in your pic......<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

Rik...I was afraid that would happen. From now on, no more pics of my daughter on WW..lol!

That sucks Brad, sorry to hear that. I don't think anyone is happy to hear that you broke your ankle because it can happen to anyone even us with our small wakes. My nephew broke his ankle early in the season and was only out for 5 weeks and was out riding again with no problems.

the doctor said it wasnt that bad, i just have a non-displaced fracture in the lower part of my fibula &amp; a few torn ligaments. should be back on the water in 5-6 weeks or so....hopefully <BR> <BR>i'd like to just throw some dirt on it, but i dont think thats in my best interest. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

Guys here are some updated wake pics <BR> <BR>give me your opinion on these <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/480258.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/480259.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/480260.jpg" alt="Upload">

The wake looks good. The wakes looks nice and crisp. I mean its not massive but with the wake with good techinque you will have no problem with basic spins and inverts

bevan,ill ride behind the dingy with you if the girls are gunna go.guys just go have fun it dont matter what your boarding behind just go ride your own ride.

oh and jeff, wake looks like fun, gotta be better then sittn on the dock or waitn on a friend to pull you.