Malibu MXZ 20
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Posted on MN Inboard's website yesterday.. Malibu sure knows how to put together an interior.. |
I like it! How much?
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I know people dont like bright colors or bass boat flake but that looks great
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As someone who owns a normal VTX, the MXZ layout doesn't seem to work in the 20' size. You could fit 4 guys in the back comfortably. Look at the size of the cushions in that interior! The 'cooler' cover cushion behind the drivers seat looks to be less than 1/2 the size of a regular VTX. And look how far back the tower is, it's basically right to the corner of the interior area. You couldn't even get into the interior without going on to the sunpad first. Maybe it's just me, but Malibu should have nix'ed the back seat area and put the space back into the interior like the VTX or A20.
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The rear cabin area doesn't look much smaller than the 04-09 X Star.. No ones knees are touching.. Of course 8 people in the back of any 20'er isn't "ideal" and not something you'd want to do on the regular - but they certainly don't appear to be nuts to butts..
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Well since we don't get bass boats up here on the west coast I'll take me some purdy flake any day of the week! Love the green.
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I'm sure it's more than I can afford, but certainly a nice options for folks on smaller lakes that still want baller boats.
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Apparently it's called "Monster Green" and will be new for next year.. I love the interior selections.. Just the right amount of accents..
Also more than I can afford - I'm with Tom. |
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If you need extra room, you don't buy a 20 footer, simple as that. 20 footers are all sport, or for the guy that needs to get the boat in his garage.
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1. A 20' wakeboat is not for 8+ adults + gear 2. what you "lose" in space in back you make up for in front - ie: kids 3. See #1 - lol @ 8 riders + gear in any 20' rig. 4. I can't afford it or probably even half of it - just arguing cause it's better than reading political posts |
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There is 8 people relatively comfortable in the back half of a small boat.. that's good enough for me.
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I don't know why everybody takes things on WW as an argument. It's just my opinion.
Let's say you are buying a 20' boat because that's all you can fit in your garage (like my situation). You want a Malibu. You have two models to choose from now. Do you want: a) more interior space, smaller bow b) less interior space, bigger bow Yes I know there are other factors between the two boats. I'm simply talking about useable interior space. The MXZ appears to be noticeably smaller than the VTX. That's it, that's all. |
A & B are both interior space, imo.
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I was just pointing out that you said the rear teak seat takes away interior space and to me it looks like it just makes the sun pad smaller... Does the squared off bow make it look bigger than it actually is? I don't know... |
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I guess we'll have to wait for the specs to come out to see what the behind the windshield square footage is between the VTX and the 20MXZ.
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Guess that lime green flake is one of the new '13 colors, as it doesn't show on the malibu website yet.
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Like I said on malibucrew, I want to see how the interior stacks up against the RZR and X2. I like the shape of the boat, but it seems smaller than the other two. The vtx has a redesigned interior as well, but traditional bow.
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The main cabin doesn't look quite as deep from bow to stern as my RZR, but you can definitely see the extra 6" beam width as it does look wider in the interior. The bow is definitely wider in the front as it is using all of the pickle fork.
I'm really curious to see the wake, especially at speeds less than 20mph. That's one of my biggest issues with my boat is that I can only get 1 side of the wake clean at a time for my 5yr old at around 18.4mph. I can't clean both sides until around 20.6mph. |
While there are only a few shots of it, the wake looks great in this video. Crisp and clean all the way back on both sides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=bUpY0frFIgY |
WHY? Is there really demand for a 20 foot boat compared to a 21 foot boat?
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Definately looks like the behind windshield seating area is shorter(front to back) than the VTX but like other have said the bow is longer and wider. You probably sacrafice room for one behind the windshield to add room for one in teh bow. Also, you get the picklefork style. Let's all be honest most people buying a picklefork over a traditional bow are doing it for looks, nothing more. I am not a huge fan of that color but this boat is the best looking/most in proportion 20 foot picklefork on the market. Great looking boat.
As for the tower being farther back it pretty much has to be. If the windshield is moved back than the tower has to be moved back so it can fold inside the windshield. That said, it is probably only 6 inches or so farther back than the VTX so in reality it probably doesn't make much of a difference. |
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20ft boats fit in more garages, are able to be used on lakes with size restrictions, and are slightly more affordable. Hence the popularity of the A20. Great looking boat IMO.
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i think it looks great. not a major fan of the looks, i dig that green
wake looks nice but the most impressive thing is the weight... holy crap! 4000lbs!!! |
Fantastic looking boat!
For us midwesterners, boat length is a big deal, so this should fill a void in the market nicely. I'd imagine it will have company from the other manufacturers very soon. |
OK. So 20 FT has merit.
As a non-fan and mostly a non-user of open bow areas... How would you respond to a 20FT CAB-FORWARD CLOSED-BOW? Imagine this boat with the cockpit pushed forward as far as possible. |
Good looking boat but is a little small for me.
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Void in the market? Malibu alone already had 2 20 footers(A20, VTX). Tige has the R20 and RZR. Moomba the 20V. Supra the 20V. I could go on. For all the guys complaining about it being small it sounds to me like it's already a full demographic that not many are looking at. Not sure why Malibu would want a third boat in the 20 foot class. But it is a sweet looking boat. I like the pickle fork in the 20's because it adds space. We just bought an RZR and the bow is bigger than if it was a traditional V. I'm not sure how many VTX's or A20s MN inboard moved last year but with us not having many size restricted lakes here in MN probably not a bunch. We bought a 20 because it was a little cheaper and it's only my family of 5. We rarely if ever ride with anyone. So it made sense.
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GD, I would love to see this boat, or any 20' pickle fork, with a really cab forward design. I like how the traditional malibus (vlx, vtx, lsv's) and the MB's have the real cab forward design, making the cab area so much bigger. If you could push the cab forward 1 more foot on the vtx, it may be funny looking but very comfortable and functional. Maybe it would be ugly and we all know that looks are a huge deciding factor. |
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The tige rzr is pretty cab forward, much like the vtx is. It's short but wide with a big cockpit
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SOMETHING INTERESTING!!!! Notice on the middle of the windshield a warning: bow capacity 3 persons!!!!! Avoiding x45 incidents I see
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Very true. The RZR does have a smaller bow with more cockpit space. We like that because no one really rides up front much.
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IMO, the realestate in the cabin is worth 10X the realestate in the bow.
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The boat looks great, Malibu has a fantastic Wakesetter line... all there boats look amazing. However, I dont quite understand the rear transom seats. They could have added another 10-12" of lounge area without the seats on the transom. You do not really need seats to sit on the transom and hang out.... I would prefer more lounge area where people are sitting in the boat.
The 20' boat market must be in demand, there are plenty of options for buyers. |
Teak seats take storage, not cockpit space.......
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I think it would be cool to have the mxz 20 bow size in the mxz 22 boat. I think thats what Centurion does now, makes options for bow sizes on their enzo line. 244/244+
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just saw on boat trader that the price on this thing is like 94K.........LOL...for a 20ft boat...what a joke...i dont dare what it does or what it has, there aint no way in heck that this thing is worth that.
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Totally agree when the competitions 20 ft boats are running in the 50K range. The VTX was really already priced out of the market compared to other 20 footers and this one is more. I just paid a little more than half that for a 2013 RZR. HALF!! Malibu makes a great boat but at 94K that is pure fantasy!
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Same here jsut paid about half for my 2012 MB F21.......maybe the hull is gold plated or something...lol
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If we're looking at the same boat here, then the one on boat trader for 94 is actually a VTX, not the 20 MXZ. There are two 2013 VTX's that appear to be listed by the same dealer, one for 94 and the other for 93. There's no way that boat would ever actually go for that much money, right? I couldn't imagine the price tag on the 20 MXZ would be less..
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how much is the 22mxz? 24mxz?
I do not know, but I am certain you can get a new 22mxz for 80's... so the 20mxz should be high 60's??? loving that color combo, especially that new green. |
All you guys saying how cheap you got your boat really has no relevance. List what the MSRP was for your boat. Yes I agree no VTX should go $90k and I bet you they don't! Just like your budget boat you bought doesn't list at the price you paid either.
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http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...0vtx-101866540 That dealer is clearly listing MSRP prices as no VTX sells for anywhere near that. That is nearly $30k more than the price I was given for a custom order 2012 VTX from my local dealer just last year. Just because an idiot dealer posts MSRP prices on boat trader doesn't mean that is what the boat actually sells for. |
In fact there are new 22 MXZ's for sale on boat trader in the low $80k range right now. If course the 20 MXZ will be less than the 22 MXZ, and likely more than the VTX.
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I remember when I owned a budget boat... I also used to bomb Big 3 threads with flamboyant statements like "I could buy two of my boats for that!"
If that backwards logic helps you guys justify your purchase, then I'm happy for you. The fact is that you are comparing MSRP to actual market prices (apples to oranges). My last budget boat, which was the same as yours Micah, had an MSRP over $70k with all the options. Guess what I paid... < $50k and that was early in the season. A VTX is easy to buy in the $60's depending on options. VLX is just a few G's more than that, and LSV just a few G's more than that. The inflated MSRP is meaningless. If you ever want to know what boats actually sell for, just go to OIB and search for one-year-old boats from PRIVATE sellers. Guys who sell boats after one year are typically trying to recoup close to purchase price. Try it sometime... You'll see what I'm talking about. And I have to laugh when I see the Tige owners positioning their boats as budget boats (nice try simplej). Tige makes a very nice product, but has any boat company raised prices faster over the past 5 years?? In most markets their actual market prices are MORE than Bu, MC, etc. Many many people on this forum have reported this after extensive negotiations on all brands (501s comes to mind). |
LOL.....looks like i upset the BOAT GODS of WAKEWORLD...man you guys sure get deffensive easy
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No one counts Canadiens, imo.
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ah yes, of course.
yes tige's prices have increased massively. As has their quality, from 2008-today the quality difference is massive. trading in a old malibu, these are are difference in values + trade quoted at the boat show in 2011. or market value... mastercraft x-2, tower speakers, heater, 350 single axle trailer, basic ballast: 38,999 more than what we paid for our boat, asked if we could do a vtx for 55k basic options the dealer literally chuckled and pointed us towards an a20. he said you can have it for 45k with nothing, dealer quotes 20k higher for vtx than the rzr and axis a few k less than the rzr. finally nautique 200, 15k more than the rzr. these boats were all sitting at the show, the tige was a custom order...advertised high with the big 3, priced to move. |
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Not sure who the boat gods are. Aren't we all just boat owners discussing toys on a forum? |
It seems you are a bit upset when the commoners with the budget boats dare to compare with your "big 3" on Mt High!!!
I love that MC, CC, and now Malibu owners somehow think they are better than everyone else. How does the brand boat you own make you a better person? Does it make you feel good when you say things like "I remember when I owned a budget boat"!! Regardless of brand all the prices are ridiculous. Alot of our pricing arguments come from the dealers we use. Around here Tige negotiates, MC, Supra/Moomba, and Malibu do not. Thats why I bought a Tige. I would have bought any brand for the right deal. Other just wouldn't work with me. I guess if that would have been a MC, CC, or Bu I would have had to start taking down to people. Unreal. |
Granny Smith apple meets toad! That boat would make anybody dizzy.
What the hell is it? A bass boat with some sort of bent up tower? Take the tower speakers and toss them in the recycle bin for extra Christmas cash and buy some real tower speakers. |
Don't worry one day it might be the big 4 and you can have your place on Mt High also! Sorry couldn't resist. Agree stupid to argue, it will all work itself out in the end. If Tige or MB keep making great boats that last and are a better value in the long run then that will be great for all. But for now people will pay more for MC or CC and even BU I guess:)
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I wasn't talking down to anybody for owning a budget boat. I was calling out a couple of trolls for taking a thread about Malibu and trying to make it about their boats... And using false logic to do it. I don't think I'm better. I have owned a Malibu for all of 6 months. BFD! And given my track record, I won't own it for long. My next boat could easily be a "budget boat." I don't know where you get this idea that I get upset when folks compare budget boats to Big 3. If you know anything about me and my posts over the years, it's quite the opposite. I'm the guy who thinks all comparisons are fair game. My point was only to show that when it comes to pricing, let's not use MSRP vs. street prices. Bottom line... All these boats are good, I often post in MC, MB, Supra, and CC threads. I love them all! It's the trolls and self promoters that get under my skin. You are right about one thing... All boats cost too much. |
I hate when these treads turn into the budget boat vs expensive boat arguments. Nobody pays msrp. Just be happy with what you have.
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I was told by a dealer today to expect the boat to be in the mid to low $80's. I'm not sure where that translates as far as the street price.
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<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/53158753?badge=0" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/53158753">20MXZ</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/malibuboats">Malibu Boats</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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if they got the wake like the 22mxz... thats a money 20 fter
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That mirror looks absolutely hideous! Just sayin...
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