I have read a ton of threads on stereo/speaker/subs components and placement. I guess there must be a reason no one mounts their subs in canisters on their towers? I have ZERO room in the boat but would still like to add a sub?? Anyone with positive or negative experience with tower mounted subs give me a shout.

the only subs you could possible think of mounting would be bazooka style but weight will be a small issue and also with subs you wont get the affect you want being mounted above you.

skylon defcon v uses kicker comp vr 8"s <a href="http://www.skylonsports.com" target="_blank">www.skylonsports.com</a> <BR>nvs uses 10"s and 8"s <a href="http://www.nvs.com" target="_blank">www.nvs.com</a>

FYI, NVS does not use subs. The 8's and 10's in the Entity Series tower speakers are mid bass/mid range woofers. <BR>and it's <a href="http://www.NVS1.net" target="_blank">www.NVS1.net</a> <BR>carry on

I guess I'm no one. I have had 8" subs on the last two tower set ups I built. Mostly they are used as a mid set up. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/191285.jpg" alt=""> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/191286.jpg" alt="">

adding a sub to a tower is kinda tough...it is not a efficent design. <BR> <BR>the more a sub is reinforced with another plane - the louder it gets.....( adding a surface close to or around the sub adds 3db... 3db is liken to doubling your amp output...) <BR> <BR>that is why speaker sound like crap when they are not mounted to anything..subs in most(99%)installations need reinforcement <BR> <BR>so when you enclose them and place them by/on the floor(+3db) and then place them toward a corner(2 walls - add +6db) and have a close ceiling (another +3 db)....you just picked up 12 db.....which is HUGE !!!!!! <BR> <BR>that means a sub(on the floor, by the corner, with a close celing-400 watt amp) will sound just as lound as a sub with the 1600 watt amp out in the open. and in this case louder... <BR> <BR>bass waves are very, very long. ( take 550 and divide it by the frequency and that will give you the length. <BR> 40 htz note will have a 14' length, <BR> 30htz note will have a 18' lenght, <BR> 20 htz note will have 27.5 ' length !!!!! <BR>(that is why most car systems sound louder with lower frequencies outside of the car) <BR> <BR>generally speaking, since low bass is non directional ( must have the crossver point below 80hz) you can pretty much out the sub anywhere. so a custom isoberic with 2 10's requires very little space(hovever alot of juice jl class d amps work great) and will actually sound and feel better since it will use the long sound waves can travel througout/inside the boat. <BR> <BR>here are the drawbacks..... <BR> <BR>the subs will rattle anything that in the boat that is not mechanically grounded or secured <BR>the mid/higs will have to be delayed 3-5 milliseconds ( the mids and high will reach your ears much faster than than a bass wave..so they need to be "delayed" till the sub wave can make it out and not "cancel" out around the crossover frequency ( most car systems suffer from a lack of midbass in this freqency range) <BR> <BR>the high eclipse and alpine decks will allow for the altering the phase and/or delaying the phase so the all the freqencies make it to you at the same time. <BR> <BR>hope that helps, <BR> <BR>mike <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>

An audio installation shop/company in Santa Rosa or Petaluma had an Air Nautique, and they put a 36" or 40-something inch sub up in the tower. The box and sub looked like a giant thick bimini top that took up the entire space there. It was truly wild, and yes I did see this personally. I'm bored and just thought I'd include this wonderful application of ridiculous bass <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

Saw a different setup-an aluminum diamondplate box w/4 speakers facing rear, and an 8 or 10" sub in bottom of box facing down.It was parked on a side street in SantaCruz. I would like to have heard it. looked good, not a cheezy homemade type.

Kevin McGuirk - <BR> <BR>I gotta see pictures of this thing. Got any?