i am trying to pull of a surface 360 but i am having trouble with the handle pass and i keep getting stuck in a blind 180. thanx

I'd try tying a rope up to a tree or something and practice your handle pass on land (or a trampoline if you have it) Eventually you will learn where to pass the handle and shouldn't have trouble with the passing when your out on the water.

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go for it backside and just hold the reverse slide until u grab it just reach reach and reach. practice. 14ft trampolines at walmart fro $140 thats where i got mine and it definetly helped me land my ts 3<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0>

I slowed my boat down to 15 mph, and the whole time kept telling myself to stay slightly off-axis to keep the front edge of the board above the water. The falls are a lot less forgiving giong 15 too.