Hey Friends - <BR> <BR>Still icy on the 10,000 here in MN, lame. <BR> <BR>I've been riding the snowboard lately, watching Mack Dog films, etc. and appreciating all of the creativity snowboarders have. Since wakeboarding is my #1, I always try to think of things pros could do differently. <BR> <BR>I guess I'm a little surprised there aren't more tricks guys are doing from a blind cut. The answer might be obvious and I'm just not seeing it. I'm not a great rider by any means, but I know that I can dig in a pretty good edge riding blind. <BR> <BR>I'm just thinking that riders that can kill it would be able to do some sick stuff with a blind take off. I know I'm going to be trying frontside 180's with a blind take off once the ice melts. <BR> <BR>So many snowboarders begin their body rotation (not board) on their take offs and it looks pretty stylie. <BR> <BR>Am I an idiot for thinking this could be a new trend? Is it too awkward to do many maneuvers? <BR> <BR>Perhaps more food for thought: When can I expect to see a wakeboarder spin a 3 off a bonk? Seems to be pretty big on snow lately. <BR> <BR>Winter brainstorming...

Redbull's Wake Cracker... they had Oli Derome do a bonk to a 180 or a 3 or something off a tree... if i remember right. And If i'm thinking like you are on the "blind" cut... Zane's Slurpee is cut in blind.

Cool Ben. <BR> <BR>I guess I've not seen the Slurpee. Is that the only trick out there? Seems like there could be a lot more. <BR> <BR>I think it would be cool to ollie a bs 180 mid cut, and do some kind of trip flip off the wake.

i don't think the slurpee would be what you're talking about. crazy trick but not a stylie trick. <BR> <BR>do you just mean coming in wrapped? i'm having a hard time picturing what you're saying and i can't figure out the fs180 coming in blind.

Well you can't exactly butter into a rotation on a wakeboard, and if you start spinning/flipping before you leave the wake there is a solid chance disaster will happen.

yea the rope keeps blinds entrys from being a smooth trick release.not impossible but would be very hard to create tricks starting that way IMO

There's a lot of snow style out there, just give it a little time... you'll be seein threes off bonks really really soon...

Here is the link to the video for the WakeCracker. It takes a while to load... but it's some pretty neat footage. They created several teams, and sent them off to get the best photos and videos. Most of the jibs and rails you see were trees cut down and made by the riders. The Bonk comes around the 2/3 mark in the video. They highlight a very large, dead tree on an island and then show a VERY quick clip of Oli making contact with it. It's HUGE. I think they must be using the whole footage for another video or something. At any rate... enjoy! <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.redbull.ca/mime/1193857234787-1081420450/wakecracker%20teaser%202.mov" target="_blank">http://www.redbull.ca/mime/1193857234787-1081420450/wakecracker%20teaser%202.mov</a>

I'll try to explain the take off position more clearly. <BR> <BR>A regular footed rider would be coming in to the wake on their toes, switch, while holding the handle behind their back with their left hand. So, it's essentially wrapped, but the rider would be facing backward instead of looking at the boat.

did someone say SLURPEEEEEE!!!!!!!1

Oh I said it! Between 7-11 and Zane, how can you lose? <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/rofl.gif" border=0> . I still wanna see a vid or a sequence of that trick... <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/661489.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/661490.jpg" alt="Upload">

so switch toeside?

I mean Randall kinda comes in wrapped blind. Like when he does the TS wrapped BS 5, which is friggin ridiculous!!

I think what Big Heavy is referring to is what I'm picturing. Sorry for the horrible description. I suppose it would still be BS (misspoke earlier). Know of any footage of that to post? That sounds like it screams style.

I do ts bs 3 cutting in blind ever once in a while. They are pretty weird cause you get a gnarly tug from the rope if you pop off the wake wrong.

Nick - Have any footage of that?

It has been 8 or 9 years, but I will try to trap a slurpee on video this weekend--If I can make it out and the weather permits. <BR> <BR>It is a weird little trick, but not too hard.

What on earth are you even talking about? Wrapped? Coming in with your eyes closed? Turning your head away from the boat? I don't quite understand what you are talking about

Justin, <BR>Y'all riding this weekend?

I think the only place I have seen Zane's slurpee is on Scrubs of the South. His and Andrew's section is great. Trevor has a nice section in the video as well.

i cant believe there are no vids on youtube of zane or dean levelle doin a slurpee. the way that those guys do that trick is no stylish by any means but if you get the right guy that can take the trick big, slow and grab it i think that would be really sick.

jason, d harf has been doing wrapped ts bs off 3's and 5s with some crazy grabs lately ie slurpees. they look awesome

Check this site. Look under "backroll" variations, select "slurpee" (last entry), and there will be one, courtesy Dean Lavelle. <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.wakeboard.com.sg/index.php?act=ST&amp;f=37&amp;t=84&amp;st=0#entry8 8" target="_blank">http://www.wakeboard.com.sg/index.php?act=ST&amp;f=37&amp;t=84&amp;st=0#entry8 8</a>

If the weather/Maria permits. Wedding is 9 days away. <BR> <BR>After all of the Wedding festivities expire, Mid-Feb or so we need to take the boat up to Lake Bryan.

Kyle, look at the sequence jb posted. There is a major difference between a TS wrapped OA spin and a Slurpee.

9 days?!? Enjoy the festivities, and tell Maria I said hello. And we're ready to have you back at Lake Bryan, for sure.

The G-Spot has a blind take off, kgbs are wrapped by a lot of female pros, and murray does wraped kgb 5's i believe, blind petes I assume could be done with a wrapped aproach, I've seen wrapped tootsie rolls, I assume you could wrap flavor flips and fruit loops, pretty much any toeside backside spin you can wrap up, but if your looking for wrapped tricks, watch randall harris ride, he invented the wrap handle, it was initially called the vandall handle.

what is a flavor flip and a g-spot trevor? i've been out of the wake scene for awhile. i think a slurpee would look cool if you could grab it mute and not spin the extra 180. my friend said there is a guy in the first hyperlite video that does a slurpee without the extra 180.

I wanna try a slurpee next time out, I will let y'all know how it goes.

Flavor Flip: TS Front Flip to BS 180 <BR>Fruitloop: TS Front Flip to BS 360 (I think, It's been awhile since I've seen these tricks done!) <BR>Maybe we will see them at the wakegames and nationals with the new division that was added. <BR>G-Spot: Wrapped TS backroll to BS 180 <BR>A slurpee could be considered a wrapped Blind Pete. If you think about it, It's just a TS Backroll with a BS 360 with both hands on the handle behind your back and if you just slid one hand 2ft further up the rope to the wrap handle it becomes wrapped instead of the double blind approach. Not much difference.

Some people learn the toeside backroll with the hands behind the back like the slurpee. You don't have to spin the whole way if you don't want to. I have seen people learn it that way. I couldn't get the hang of it but that is one of the ways we tried to help people learn it at the wakeboard school.

Jeffrey Byron, I don't have any footage. I was trying to do just a bs 180 like that and grab it Japan all the way through but I just ended up doing a 3 cause of the pull of the rope. I got them down cause I wanted to throw one in a contest just mess with the judges. <BR> <BR>But when ever I go out next..... so like in 3 months I'll be sure to get one on video.

Nice Nick. Yeah, it's something different. <BR> <BR>That slurpee jb's link has is the type of thing I'm talking about. I just didn't know about them. Pretty sick.

i thought a fruit loop was a ts front flip w/ a backside 180. doesn't dean lavelle do those?

i sometimes take off with my eyes closed,does that count <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> lol

BTW yes a Froot loop is a ts front flip with a bs 180 and a tootsie roll is a ts front roll with a bs180

Brink a dum dum is a ts front roll to bs 360 and a flavor flip is a ts front flip to bs 360, i think

Adam Fields does a awesome fruit loop also.

mike weddington has a cool fruit loop. who does flavor flips?