My Parents and i are looking to upgrade we have driven and i have tested all of the wakes they all have pros and cons i would just like to know what everyone thinks thanks <BR> <BR>Dave

Aloha TwinX 32 pontoon boat. <BR> <BR>http://www.iboats.com/sites/alohapontoons/site_page_7447/images/l_Aloha_Pontoon_Boats_-_PS_Twin_X-32_2007_AI-253151_II-11523464.jpg <BR> <BR>(Message edited by ttuclint on March 30, 2009)

Nautique!

230 for sure

230

Watch the video in the main board of Rusty hitting X-Star double ups. Need I say more? <BR> <BR>If wake quality is first, it's an easy decision.

230 or X-Star

supra or 230

230

230

230

star

230 is awesome.

Dave, you may want to consider a 23LSV if you are looking at the 230 SAN. It would be more comparable and is a great boat with a great wake. <BR> <BR>That being said every boat you listed is awesome. Buy the one you/your parents like the best. Which way are you guys leaning right now?

Thanks for the boat dad <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/uhoh.gif" border=0>

So the kids supposed to feel bad because his dad is buying a boat? Most people get their start growing up with parents that like boating. Don't flame him for it. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by psudy on March 30, 2009)

Wakecraft, fo sho.

Well after testing all of them you should have a clear decision on which one you like best. But my vote goes to the 230.

Not a $70,000 boat.

we are leaning towards the X star or the 230 because of location of dealers being 20 minutes in either direction.. We are family friends with the mastercraft dealer but we didnt like how the x-star drives like a tank... that being said the 230's wake was alot different from a mastercarft... thanks for your all of your help it seems to me that alot of people are a real big fan of both so whatever our family decides it cant be a bad choice! Thanks alot

X Star

You could easily narrow down your choices if you decided you didn't want above the floor ballast, whether it be bags or hard tanks. I would never have above the floor stock ballast again I hate it.

I have never thought the Xstar handled bad. I have been up to Radar Lake and had the xstar loaded down and it handles fine around the islands.

230

WakeMikey seems to have a vendetta against anyone looking at new boats. Seen it in a few threads now. <BR> <BR>I think it's great that parents buy wake boats. I'm sure his parents enjoy the lake and boating too so what is the big deal? And whether people like it or not, these wake boats weren't made just for core wake boarders. They also make great family boats and the family that can afford and wants a nice boat I say more power to them.

Star...heheh

230

Jealoucy is a crappy way to go through life, wakemikey. What if his dad posted the question. Would you flame him for buying a nice boat for his family?

WhineyMike, go somewhere else. There's no reason to flame him, he's not acting spoiled or anything, jusy asking for advice and justification for the purchase his family is soon going to make. Be glad his family is supporting the industry in these tough times

WakeMikey, <BR> <BR>Op says parents and I looking to upgrade. How does that equate to dad buying a new boat for son? Could easily be a 50/50 or something. Sheesh!

230 then VLX then X-star and I own a Bu. <BR> <BR>But of course its a 23LSV so id pick that over the 230 <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

x-star handles fine at speed. dump the tanks before docking tho...... it does not like to turn weighted at docking speed... i mean my gf who never drove a boat before pulls me no problem and she is 5 foot 3. i wouldnt let her dock it tho....and she wouldnt want to <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/talker.gif" border=0>

sorry I will stay out of the thread

mikey is mad becasue hes not gettin a new boat

All great boats for sure. I personally would pick the Supra.

hey ive had a supra 24ssv and now a 22. <BR>ive ridden behind a bunch of boats but only owned supra. the 22 is the best of both worlds 15 passenger instead of 16 on the 24. and way better handling, and the wake is awesome. and for the money you cant go wrong with supra. i would suggest make sure you get the big motor and the right prop

Test drive they are all good and will fit everyone differently...

none because they don't have a head

230 then VLx and i own a VLX

x star is the badddddest boat out there. everybody knows it.

Supra shouldn't even be in the same category with those boats. The reason I say that is because the cost of a Supra is a WHOLE lot cheaper..... Nautiques and X-Stars are at least $10K to $20k higher.

X-Star

X-Star is hands down one of the greatest wakes out there. But I feel like there is more to a boat than just the wake. Mastercraft is getting passed up in innovation and new features. I feel like the Nautiques have alot more to offer inside of the boat, and it's wakes are still on the same par as Mastercraft.

230.

yea i agree with john when it comes to the money. <BR>and like someone else said test drive all the different makes you can and decide on the one that fits your likes and needs the best.(i mean this is wake boarding one of the funest sports ever) pic one and enjoy it.

sorry wes but the chaparral is the most EXTREME boat on the water........<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

btw.... 230.... F-ING sick boat!

A 230 with 4000lbs in ballast does not chine lock, it drives like there is no weight in it. Get it.

Does the engine make a difference? PCM has won JD powers 4 yrs in a row. Indmar is in all the other boats. I think the motor makes a big difference. $.02

The PCM ZR6 is the best inboard engine by a mile. So powerful, yet efficient at the same time.

IMO..... The current X-star is the best boat every made. They drive awesome, handle a ton of weight, make great wakes and look sick. <BR> <BR>What else could you want. I'm pretty partial to the picklefork, too. It adds a bunch of extra room in the nose of the boat. Great for chillen.

X-Star

so i take it my VLX sucks??

No the carpet just doesnt come out, thus allowing moisture to sit and rot away the non formed-in cushion bases.

^^^^LOL, and that's why you're looking into getting one right...

oh i get what you are saying... i like the interior and i do let my carpet dry after every day... i could see though for someone who likes to hose out there boats which is becoming more and more common for some reason

Just a joke guys-lighten up!

OOOps it is April fools.

yupper!

I was torn between a 230 (236) and an xstar. What decided for me was a)price, b)seating arrangment (I love the rear facing seats) c)narrowish "nautique" wake and d) high freeboard for surfing. <BR> <BR>all in all I think its the best overall boat out there. Maybe an xstar has a 1-2% "better" wakeboarding wake but all the other comforts were better with the 236, edging out the xstar.

oh crap it is april first..... oops got to pay the rent.lol