does dishwasher soap really break down bindings? if so over how long??

I was told dish soap does break em down on certain types and to use binding lube. You can get a bottle for bout 10 bucks and it will last a long time if you delute it. Its really concentrated and works better when you add water to it. Pour 1/4 of it into another bottle and fill the rest with water. When your trying to get bindings on or off it helps when its a little runnier than thinck so it sinks into the bindings and doesnt just sit on top, if that makes any sence.

Don't use dish soap, its too strong and could break down your bindings. I use liquid hand soap which is really cheap and works better than lube, and so far have had no problems with it breaking down my HL bindings. Never again will i pay 10 bux for a tiny bottle of lube when i can get a bottle of hand soap 3 times the size for 99 cents. Anyone looking to get rich quick get into the binding lube business immediately; you will make a fortune <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0>

Any kind of soap solution stays with your bindings. I used to use all kinds of different dish/hand soaps. When I crashed I usually blew completly out of my bindings. I use Slime. A quart ($15) will last all season. If you can afford a nice boat, board and bindings why be a cheap a$$ w/ .99 crap

I used dish soap on my Belmonts for 3 years and they are still in great condition. I have never had any problems with dish soap, so I will contine using it until I do.

I've used soap (Dawn dish soap) on all bindings, ski, and board. But I delute it with water. Never used pure soap, although I've heard it does break them down, and stays with it. Deluting it, still helps, but it eases me, not to use straight soap... who knows... <BR>*Danielle

I use shaving cream and ive never had a problem.

shaving cream for me

I've been riding for almost ten years. We use dish soap all of the time just because its cheap and all of the newbies tend to think they need half a bottle to get in and out of their bindings. The downfall to and soap is that is does stay in your bindings and you will come out more often until it gets washed out. Here is a pic of my one my friends doing an invert. He popped out of his binding as he hit the wake. We have the hyperlite temets and you can crank those pretty tight. I would blame this on dish soap. He's lucky he didn't get hurt. As for the dish soap ruining your bindings? I've found that my footpads wear out long before dish soap can deteriorate anything. All said-yes, dish soap works and will not wreck your bindings but is not the safest for the more advanced riders. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/243936.jpg" alt="">

I use shaving cream. it works great and the water rinses it off realy well

i've been using dish soap for years after i ran out of my first bottle of newt juice... it doesnt break down the bindings and it wont stay in your bindings if you know what to do.... get a bottle of soap, dilute half way with water and shake it up. get your bindings wet, use a dime sized amount of soap at the inside of your bindings. press the toe and heel piece together and rub them back and forth to create a little lather. get your feet wet. slide them in the bindings. get in the water and wiggle your feet back and forth until you feel the soap is gone... wa-la! takes all of 1-2 minutes and you wont have to worry about flying out. <BR> <BR>alot of new guys tend to use full non-diluted soap and alot of it! this will take forever to get it all out of your bindings and you waste more soap this way. spray bottles come in handy as well (diluted half and half). its easier to just spray the inside of your bindings and slip your foot in. <BR> <BR>hope this helps.

Ive found that shaving cream dissolves easily and they dont stay slimy like when I tried dish soap. I also like it because you just put a quick spert and theres a glob of shaving cream so you dont have to rub it around the binding like dish soap. That being said I have never tried an actual binding lube, I never wanted to spend the money.

I will never buy lube again. I was on a boat where they had a little spray bottle with diluted hand soap and water. You would just spray the inside of your bindings with a mist, then your feet. Because there was so little of it, and it was spread even....it washed out very quick. <BR> <BR>Its not a cost issue, the worry is that newbies use half a gallon for no reason (and who wants to be a cheap SOB by crying about soap), and second that the regular soap is much more slick and my feet slide into them so much better. <BR> <BR>I have to assume that if it is VERY hard to get my feet into a binding that I am not doing it any good and its going to rip or blow out prematurely. I have only seen a few bindings with blowout problems, and both of them had a "new" lining that they said you didn't need lube on. <BR> <BR>For what its worth. <BR> <BR>