ok, i can easily do tantrums and backrolls and even a scarecrow on a tramp, but how much different is it on water? <BR>can someone help me out? <BR>thanks <BR>dane

Motion is the same, but edging properly up the wake and with a 10lb wakeboard will add a little more then the tramp can teach you.

You can't do a tantrum on the tramp. On the tramp, it's a backflip. You can't duplicate the trip unless you're on the water. <BR> <BR>Otherwise, it's what Leo said.

check out <a href="http://www.broadbandsports.com/user/1879" target="_blank">www.broadbandsports.com/user/1879</a> <BR>cool breakdown of tramp/water tricks