in australia rails arnt allowed at all the police destroy them <BR> <BR>yet in all the wake movies out of the U.S they have permanent rails are these allowed on lakes and rivers or do the police pull them down <BR>also are alligators a big issue in orlando and other parts of america

alot of the time rails are built then taken down once filming is done especially if its not on one of the pros home lake in florida, where they dont really run into probs with the law. the other thing they do is ride rails with a winch and they are built off a like in a pool or something of that sort. <BR> <BR>alligators arent really a prob with wakeboarding because we make so much noise that they are generally scared away. alligators are only on the east coast here.

thanks for clearing that up jason callen we have sharks in most if not all salt water rivers and crocs up the north(alligators with different names) here in australia but if you want to ride you put up with it in the river i ride on on the goldcoast where Daniel Watkins, Jeff weatherall and i think Ike all live. i have been told of bull sharks nudging fallen riders in the water as they are not intimidated by boats at all

Most of the rails in videos are on private lakes.

I live on the Clermont Chain of Lakes - 25 miles west of Orlando. <BR> <BR>Folks who own waterfront property do have their own rails and they are left alone by the authorities. <BR> <BR>The population of alligators in the area always increases when folks from out of state discuss the issue. <BR> <BR>Yes, some lakes do have a large population of alligators - Lake Monroe and Lake Jessup for instance. <BR> <BR>In the Clermont Chain of Lakes, in order to see a gator, you need to get out at night with a pretty bright flashlight and go hunting.

Jason, Texas-LA have plenty of gators.

Ed, does rusty and danny live anywhere near u? i hear they live in clermont

the last time i rode with zane when i was in florida for nationals years back he said there were just over 500 gators tagged on his lake.

Nathan, crocs and alligators are quite different. In additions to the obvious visual difference, in general Crocodiles are significantly more aggressive than alligators. In addition, saltwater crocodiles are easily twice as large as the largest alligator you'll find in the US. <BR> <BR>As for sharks, not an issue unless you're in the salt or in the coastal areas of the missippi delta (bull sharks DO come up farther, but it's not all that common). <BR> <BR>So, don't worry, you're more likely to get hurt falling down the stairs than getting mauled by an alligator or shark.

dane, I have no idea who Rusty and Danny are. <BR> <BR>(I have to admit, I am only a fan of the Skiers Choice team riders and that's because they show up at my annual beach party) <BR> <BR> If they live and ride in Clermont, then yes, they probably live near me. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Ed_G on June 11, 2007)

Parks was bit a year or so ago. <BR>Ed, do you invite any other riders? <BR>When and where is your party?

Rusty Malinosky and Danny Harf live on Lake Minehaha in Clermont.

Billy, <BR> <BR>My "annual party" is open to any Supra or Moomba owner and held at the beach at Lake Louisa State Park every April or May. <BR> <BR>Just had it May 12th. <BR> <BR>This year we had Josh Sanders, Trevor Hansen, Reed Hansen, Ben Greenwood, Austin Hair, Kyle Schmidt and Russ Wilde hangin' around and doing demos.

If you live in Clermont and are a wakeboarder and have no idea who Danny and Rusty are you must be lost on this site.

that is a bit strange....333 posts says he's not a stranger to wake or this board, so he must have been kidding???

I'm sure they are great guys but, nope, no idea who they are. <BR> <BR>I'm a recreational wakeboarder... I won't ever get to be real good, don't have any fantasies about becomming real good and I'm really not the type to get all ga ga about folks who do sports proffesionally. <BR> <BR>Yea, we all live in the same town, all are watersports enthusiasts and I sorta doubt that Danny and Rusty know who I am too. <BR> <BR>But...we probably have waved to each other out on the lakes at one time or another.

Parks bit?

Bit like a ***, breast feedin a 6 year old.

There was a thread a while back about the whole Parks vs. gator saga.

I tried the search but couldn't find it can you post a link billy.

Shenanigans.

dreevs, you Irish?<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

Scottish, but it shenanigans seemed fitting to your fable. You gonna cough up the story? Not that one, <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/blush.gif" border=0>the one about the gator and Parks...<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

Here ya go, enjoy. <BR><a href="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/409899.html?1170545078" target="_blank">http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65919/409899.html?1170545078</a>

Oh man. I called it. Poor gator.

I forgot about that thread. Freaking Billy.

I think it even scared Parks mom.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/rofl.gif" border=0> <BR>Parks did get a few calls after that one.

i live in louisiana and we have rails all over lake dautrive and theyve been there for a while and i have never heard of and aligator attack any where near hear and we have hundreds of em in our lakes

I'm in Louisiana too. There are so many of 'em down here you tend to forget they're there.

I guess the California delta has a gator problem <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.ktvu.com/news/13512101/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.ktvu.com/news/13512101/detail.html</a>