a t/s f/s off-axis no pass (over the head) 5? i really wanna try and throw one soon. i feel like it might be easier than a normal t/s 5, plus it seems less scary cuz ive already got the feel of the rotation sorta from foulin up on toeside 3's. anybody got anytips on this trick? thanks alot!

Wouldn't that just be a scarecrow?

ole 5. Really if you can do a ts oa bs 540 this should be no problem, instead of passing the handle just flip it over your head.

duh, i knew it! thanks alot!

I personally think that a Scarecrow is only a 180

Al, I agree really depends how they are done. A lot of people just lay them out a ton really just a laid out 180. I like to do them ole or like a straight front roll with a late 180. Way more steeze.

Got any videos of how you do it Andy?

<a href="http://www.chadsharpe.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.chadsharpe.blogspot.com/</a> <BR>check out watsons ole 7 at 2:03ish it's a seven but it is a legit ole no confusion with a crow mobe.

its definitely an ole 5. benny g does it on the wake place but its an ole 7