Hey my family and I are looking to upgrade over our terrible Bayliner. My brother and I are both good skiers and I would consider myself and intermediate wakeboarder. I was just wondering what you guys thought of the 209 I know it is an X-9 without ballast and a tower. This one has the X-9 tower but no ballast. I was just wondering how much wieght you have to add to the boat to get a decent wake. We know someone selling one for a great price so any advice would be apreciated. Our other option is most likly the Moomba mobius.

Shane, <BR>You should look for a 1996-2000, 205dd. They have a really good ski wake, and as you probably know, the same hull as the old xstar/x2/x1. I have heard that the 209 isn't that great for WB or skiing. If it is Wbing that you primarly do, the 205v, X2 now X1 is a good boat. I run the course with ours a lot. Either way, the 209 will be worlds apart from your bayliner. <BR> <BR>Go out and test that 209 and see what you think. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by psudy on October 18, 2006)

I have an X-9 and the factory ballast is about 1200 pounds. Not a pro wake in size but very very clean. Bigger than our family will ever need. My son and daughter are 13 and getting better. I wakeboarded/skied all my life and it is better than anything we have ever had. I love the boat and would not trade it for a Vdrive even up. The DD drives planes and turns much better. It is a porche of boats. <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/381695.jpg" alt="Upload">

David, awesome looking boat. meet you last year 05 and stayed at your parents place and saw you this last summer. we were in the yellow supra. <BR> <BR>you son was rocking when we saw him.

P.S. mine is an 01' and I paid 31k for it in 03' with 100 hrs on it. X-9/209 is a great deal in the mastercraft line up right now. Severely under appreciated. Great do everything boat.

Cool, I remember you guys. It is a small world. I remember you luv this stuff as much as me. Thanks

David, sorry to hijack this thread, but when we stayed at your parents resort, i had the yellow moomba, and you were working on the hydrohoist. <BR> <BR>it is a small world. <BR> <BR>doug

David, what resort do you guys have?

Hey thanks for the input it seems those who own them feel they are a great all around boat and those who do not own them dont seem to like them to much. Anyways thanks that is what we are looking for a good all around boat that has a good wake does not have to be great just good.

My parents own a little mom and pop resort on Table Rock, on Indian Point called Alpine Lodge (alpinelodgeresort.com). I always thought it would be cool to have a wakeboarders week at the place. I think it would be neet to have the resort nothing but board nuts for just one week. They are ussually always full in the summer but I probably should organize a week and cut a deal for as many of us wakenuts as posible. Let me know if anyone is interested for next summer. Hey they do it for the bass fisherman. Here is a pick of our butter! <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/381884.jpg" alt="Upload">

I own an X-9 (PS 209 hull with wakeboard package) and it does very well for boarding. With full factory ballast and human ballast, it provides a good wake shape and size for most riders. With an additional 700 lbs and full human ballast, it really rocks. <BR> <BR>It is for sale right now - if you want it. I have a new one reserved for next season.

Not a very important contribution here, but I've always liked the design of the transom on those boats, looks like an early 60's Chevy, or the Batmobile. <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/382491.gif" alt="thumbsup">

Thanks Karl but Michigan is a little to far away for me thanks thou. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by epic_peachland on October 23, 2006)

Love mine..see my profile......fantastic...wake board wake...to load it with people...if you don't have factory ballast...than I would put a 500 fatty under the back seat and 500 in the KGB-front storage locker..perhaps some weight in the bow...always keep the gas tank full(extra weight in the back).... <BR>also great shortline boat in the slalom course...or free skiing @ 34mph as well...love the total all around usablilty of it!!!!!