I wakeboard behind a moomba and the wakes are fine for that. I was wonderin if you had to put weight in the boat to wakesurf. thanx.

Josh, <BR>Yes you will have to add substantial weight to the side that you want to surf on. Someone here will probably give you more specific information for your boat.

No, but the more weight in the right places, the better the wave can be. What kind of Moomba do you have? Maybe someone on here with the same boat can help you out....

Bryan, I disagree, if you don’t load your boat the wake will be small and you’ll need a large board like an Inland Surfer Red. If you weight your boat to one side or the other the wake will be cleaner, larger, and easier for beginners to ride. <BR> <BR>I think the wakesurf tribal knowledge says to put weight in one back corner, then work it forward along the side. So if you have a regular stance put weight in the port (left) locker. Don’t fill your starboard tanks, if you have a center tank you probably should fill it. If your wake seems really high and steep then start moving the weight forward along the port side. Boat speed should be about 10 mph. If you can surf at 10 mph try slowing down to 9.5 or 9 mph. <BR> <BR>Most boats, including Moombas have a left hand prop. Boats with left hand props generally make a better port-regular wake than starboard-goofy wake. <BR> <BR>If you’re a regular stance rider you should be surfing on the port wake with your toes pointing to the wake. You can ride a switch stance and on the other wake but those stances are more difficult to master.

Ed, I dont hav any fat sacks yet, only people. would that work the same if just had a buncha guys ridin in the back corner. My boat is a Mobius. Pretty sure its the '98 model. <BR> <BR> thanx again.

Josh, yes "people ballast" is often the easiest ballast to experiment with. You can simply ask Joe to move from the back to the center to the bow. <BR> <BR>I don’t know much about the Moomba line up, especially older Moombas. I see that for 2007 that a Mobius is one of three very different looking boats. Is you boat a d-drive, how big is it? Hopefully a Moomba guy will speak up.

Ed, I agree. I guess I was reading it the thread wrong. You don't have to put weight in the boat, but it sure does help. <BR> <BR>Josh, throw us a bone. What kind of Mobius? LS, LSV, or XLV? Is it a direct drive, with the engine in the middle of the boat or V-drive, with the engine in the back of the boat?

Its just a mobius. They didnt come out w/ the LS, LSV, and XLV till later on. and its a d-drive. pretty sure its 21 ft. long. <BR> <BR> thanx again.

Ed Geary is a Supra/Moomba man. You should give him a shout and I'm sure he'd be glad to let you know his exact ballasting layout. I believe we got decent results on his boat with two fat sac's one along the side being surfed and another under the rear bench seat, at a right angle to the first fat sac. We filled them as much as they would go, considering the limitations of the engine cover and rear seat. Plus maybe - 400 pounds of people ballast. <BR> <BR>This is what the wake looked like at 9.5 mph. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/559019/400112.jpg" alt="Upload">

Jeff, I'm not sure if that's tea, coffee, or coco that your surfing in. I certainly hope that whatever it is, that its iced rather than scalding hot<IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> <BR> <BR>Josh, if your boat is a d-drive then it must be most like the Mobius LS. Jeff’s weighting advice is a good start.

Thanx a bunch for all the advice. hopefully i get my dad to put the boat in and we'll giv it another try this afternoon. I'll let yal know how it goes. <BR> thanx, <BR> josh

Looks like he is surfing in the sewer <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/uhoh.gif" border=0> J/K

That "sewer" is home to some of the best wakeboarders and wakeboarding coaches in the world! (Clermont, Fl) <BR> <BR>The water color comes from water being filterered thru swamps and tannic acid from cypress trees. <BR> <BR>Jeff has described my Moomba Outback set-up perfectly, but the wake shown is not from behind my boat. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Ed_G on January 02, 2007)

Oh shoot! Ed, you're right that isn't your boat!!!! It's not easy getting old! <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

I hear ya <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> <BR> <BR>I got a salesman knocking on my door wanting to give me a colonoscopy. <BR> <BR>I think that may have been Russ Wilde's (Skiers Choice) latest boat.

u may need weight but im kinda small and i have a 2000 chapparal 22 foot and with 3 people i let go of the handle for over a minute so it all depends

Bart, don't take this wrong but you should not SURF behind a i/o.

That pic of surfdad is awesome. I've never seen anyone surf in a lake full of Guiness before.

Dissin' on my lake - you guys are just darn jealous. <BR> <BR>That water in the Clermont Chain of Lakes may be dark tan in color, but it is 72 degrees F as of January 21 with an air temp of 80. <BR> <BR>Water gets warmer every day. By 1st of April, it will be ~80. Just in time for the 3rd annual Supra/Moomba Owners Jamboree <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Ed_G on January 23, 2007)

We've got a Malibu VLX and have been trying to figure out the right settings for surfing. We have a board that fits me, but is too small for my husband, so I've been able to surf for a minute or two before I get too far from the wake. Has anyone been able to find the right surf setting for a Malibu VLX? Wedge up, wedge down, halfway up? Ballast settings?

Andrea, the VLX make a pretty nice wake with little effort. What board do you have and how much does you husband weight? How are you setting up your ballast? <BR> <BR>I weighted a VLX with stock ballast and one additional 400 pound sack and had very good results. I don't own a VLX so I don't have many opportunities to play with the wedge. When I set up the VLX for a comp the wedge was stuck in the up position, the wake was great.