<a href="http://www.mywake.tv/viewVideo.php?video_id=887&amp;title=1080" target="_blank">http://www.mywake.tv/viewVideo.php?video_id=887&amp;title=1080</a> <BR>Ok maybe I'm out of the loop here but I've never heard of him before. <BR>And he definitely almost stomped a 10. Pretty sick in my book.

that was sick

Yup, you're out of the loop! <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> That's from January of 2006... <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=530" target="_blank">http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=530</a>

Yeah his section in refraction is sick... that guy spins like a top

you should see the OO9 Matt does. Sickest move ever.

i cant find a video of this 009 anywhere does anyone else have a link?

Wow yah guess that was older than I thought lol though I didn't start boarding till summer of 06 so I have an excuse. Wasn’t his 009 in a sequence shot in WBM? <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Mxflyer281 on March 22, 2008)

There's a 009 at the end of the downside up trailer. There's a better quality video somewhere, but here's the youtube link <BR><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEFd9ui1FTc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEFd9ui1FTc</a>

i personally think matt simms is the most underrated wakeboarder. and just thinking about it in my head i would think a 009 is way harder than a 10. but thats just my 2 cents

"i would think a 009 is way harder than a 10. but thats just my 2 cents " <BR> <BR>If that was the case he would probably be landing them eh? <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

cie, you may be right but how many people have landed the 1080 and how many people have landed the 009??

I think its the 4 handle passes to one that makes the 1080 a technically harder trick. Considering that no one on here knows from experience, this is also just conjecture.

actually for a 10-its 3 handle passes if its heelside, and 2 if its toeside (and generally a third after they land blind) <BR> <BR>a 009 is an osmosis and ole (no handlepasses) <BR> <BR>dont get me wrong i love watching a 10, but i love the 009 so much more.

A handle pass doesn't have to be behind your back to make it a pass. I stand corrected on the 009 pass, but a TS 10 uses 4 passes, two in front, two in back, land blind.

yea man i was gonna say the same thing. not that i know from experiance but the last handle pass of a 1080 has got to be one of the hardest. even though its not behind the back. when you see most people land 9's its with there back hand on the rope and its nowhere near there hip.

oh well thats where the confusion was... i dont count the handle passes in the front... i only count behind the back