MB Tomcat 21
Hey guys i had the opportunity to test a 21 foot MB Tomcat today!
all i have to say is wow! the wakeboard wake on this machine is phenomenal! if you guys haven't gotten on one of these boats yet you are missing out! Brian Sasser from Texas Mastercraft took me for a drive and set on Lake Austin today behind this beauty http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...59970967_n.jpg Stock ballast is 2400lbs! it filled in less than a minute! drained in like 30 Seconds! Pump free! dash is basic with no lcd screen and comes standard with zero off PP and wetsounds! the graphics are awesome especially because they arent vinyl stickers. the motor looks easy to work on because theres not a mess of pumps behind it. plenty of seating and storage. platform is high out of the water. MB boats are definitely the best bang for the buck! i feel like i was more impressed with this boat than any other manufacturer. Thanks again to Brian Sasser and Texas Mastercraft for putting on their in water boat show on lake Austin. i hope this winds up in my driveway one day http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...40205480_n.jpg |
Agree 100% The MB Tomcat is pound for pound the best boat out. Fit and finish is top notch even without all the pointless bling that jacks up the price. That Green/Black color scheme is bad a$$!! Just one thing though... The 21 foot comes with 1800lbs stock ballast and the 23ft has 2400lbs...Unless they changed it in the 2012's and haven't updated their website.
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I've never seen the bimini flipped up backwards (?) like that.
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JB, please tell me you have some footage of you riding behind this tomcat!
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How fast are these boats, someone told me they are slower than most and dogs in the water
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no footy today, but if i can get the right price il be ridin behind this thing all the time. i seriously underestimated these boats cause they are badasss! im sooo ready to move away from my direct drive. i want this boat bad
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JB, I know what is running through your head. It happened to me too.
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Wow this is big news somebody test drove an MB and liked it? It been over 2 days since MB was brought up at least it on its own thread this time. Come on boys there may be at least one person that doesn't know MB is the best boat and only cost 50 k.
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The boat looks good.The graphics remind me of Mastercraft.The MB's i've ridden behind were older [2007]but they had great wakes also.
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JB I plan to go ride this in the spring with Brian , can you give some more info on riding this wake? How fast did you ride? Rope length? Etc..
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After being at the boat show lastnight (no MB's there)and seeing many different boats in a short amount of time. Having spent some time on a MB last summer. HANDS DOWN, most room behind the windshield in any 21-22 foot boat. AND the interior is top notch compared to what you find in the other offerings in its price range. a "boxy" interior just bothers me. Spreading the MB love... sorry if anyone is butt hurt over it.
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Don't mind Mr. Hunter. He's a Nautique lover and gets cranky when he sees people getting more boat for $30k less.
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I can't wait to see what the local dealer has in sock for the UT Boat Show. Reboats in UT seem to really be pushing these boats out the door. Hope to see a ton more MB's at the local lakes. Now just to teach them all how to drive so we all can enjoy this sick ass wake!
This pic is behind the MB F21 with stock ballast, 450 in the nose, and 4 adults in the boat. 2012 is going to be all MB! Attachment 19242 |
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I'm a huge Nautique fan, but the reality is for the common boater they have priced themselves out of the market. If someone like MB, Tige, etc can come along and give a similar build quality at 75-80% of the price, to me thats good for anyone in the market for a well built tow boat. The MB love on this site tends to get a bit ridiculous though. |
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we went back to check the boats out today, i think we will eventually end up getting one but we are still working on prices, and trade in value
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JB
I'm sorry you got caught up in in the MB lovers war .The fact is I think They are probably a pretty good boat. I think you will be happy with it. It gets a little aggravating being told how much better they are on almost every thread. Give it a rest guys its good to have a hot fudge sundae but not 10 a day every day. By the way I also own a Supra and there is room in the barn for one more maybe a MB? Matt they are right I am a nice guy. |
Mike,
You might be surprised but I agree with you... Sometimes the MB hype is too much, which is why I don't post anymore (even though I love my MB). I wasn't going to post in this thread either, until I read your stupid ass post. The problem with your first post is that this thread is NOT from the usual MB faithful. This is from a guy that legitimately demo'd a boat and innocently came here to post about his experience (complete with pics). Thats what WW is all about! We all love demo/new boat threads of all makes and models. Your reply makes it seem like the whole thing is some sort of conspiracy. Bottom line.... You called foul on the wrong guy in the wrong thread. Save it for the really obnoxious threads. Or better yet, keep your mouth shut until you actually have seen and ridden behind a new MB. |
The direction this thread took without provocation is really quite sad.
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love that color combo with those rims
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What is Texas Mastercraft selling that MB for?
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Just when I thought we were going to get along you had to muck it up. You are right about pissing on JB thread but I didn't need you to bring that to my attention since I already apologized to JB . I never threw rocks at MB unlike the boulders thrown at the big three .You know I was more excited about MB before WW became the MB fan club.You have set the bar pretty high I hope MB lives up to all the hype. I will no longer post anything concerning MB if that is what you want . I think you will find having a one sided threads will get pretty boring . I hope the members will remember I have the same fondness for my brands and show the same consideration for them. |
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I am just not a fan of the tower, the small sun pad, the pronounced pickle fork or the graphics package (or that particular green color).
I'm sure it's a great boat, but just doesn't give me that fuzzy feeling. |
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I enjoy seeing the MB and Tige' posts and builds, after ordering a new boat last year, it really is a cool experience and I can see why others are wanting to share. |
Huh? Were you looking at a current model MB? The bimini is huge, and the lockers are cavernous. I stuffed several surfboards and a kneeboard in the back lockers. They're also significantly deeper than most boats. The tower is a bit dated for some, but it's rock solid. Zero shake over the rollers. The sun pad is a bit smaller, but I prefer the added seating room. We ride, we don't sun bathe.
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How many more inches of sunpad would you want? Another 6"? Another 12" And, would you like to give up the center seating space to get it?
For me, the answer is "optimize for what I use more" so I dig the MB sunpad which brings me the massive seating area. Different strokes for different folks. |
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Having come from an illusion tower, with it's low headroom and even lower speaker mounting positions, I really appreciate the high and traditional position of the MB tower. I'm with tuneman on the stability -- it really is a stable tower. Fman, makes me wonder if the one you shook wasn't tightened up properly? I've got my minor gripes about the boat, but the tower and extra room in the boat at the "expense" of the sunpad are not among them. Quote:
That part is all moot to me. If I wanted a boat to sunbathe on, I'd have bought a deck boat. |
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In comparison to the Malibu VLX lockers they seem smaller, and shorter in length with less room when opened. I never measured them, this is what I observed visually. In my opinion, the MB bimini design, and tower do not compare to the Malibu. I did not want to throw out other brands in this post, but this is the boat I own and what I was comparing the MB with. Maybe the tower was loose or not tightened all the way, but in my opinion, it did not even come close to solidness, and style of the new G3 tower on the Malibu. I weigh 200 lbs and can do pull ups on it all day and it never budges. Not to mention the quad board racks that are available of the G3 to hold a ton of gear. I just wish MB would look at other options for tower designs. Just my opinion, these are observations I noticed... I have never spent a day out in the MB on the lake, only kicking tires while at the dealership. I was looking at the 21' MB widebody, which is a similar size to the VLX.... not sure how the larger boats compare. Again, I think the MB is a great boat, and every boat will have items people like and dislike. Maybe I am different, but if someone dislikes something about my boat I purchased, I could really care less, because it works for me and our boating lifestyle. It is just an opinion, and this is the reason there are many options for people when purchasing a boat. And no, I dont think the Malibu is a perfect boat either, I have some items I would change. |
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I'm really liking the MB...especially the 23 TWB but i hope MB does a more sculpted tower for 2013 or at least have an option for a traditional tube tower and a more scultped tower that would fit the boat's lines.
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MB released this peak at their new 24 foot tomcat mold on facebook today.
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looks like the pickle will be a lot more subtle than the f23, so far, i like it. are they ditching the f23 then?
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That looks huge
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F23 is being replaced with the F24.
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This entire "picklefork" concept is to widen the bow without looking like a deck boat.
Function: make bow wide. Fashion: make wide bow boat look unlike a deck boat. My preference on pickled boats is for the "tines" of the fork to be small, short and pointed. In this regard, I really like what Tige is doing these days. |
if someone broke into MB and saw that I'm pretty sure they'd be convinced MB builds the batwing.
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Those are some BIG pickles!!
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JB, any interior pics? Good luck on the purchase!!!
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Interior of MB at Hula Hut...
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Green with envy!
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How does the interior size of the MB21 compare to the Supreme V226?
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is the v226 a 22'6" by chance? cuz an mb f21 has the interior space of a 25 foot boat :)
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"green with envy" is so fitting.
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That green is for sure a different color than normal and I kind of dig it. How about this one that came up in our local ads here in UT? Flake on the nose? I thought it only came on the X...
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The metal flake on the nose isn't for me I would have left it white. IMO it reminds me of a bass boat.
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Two of my favorites so far... I like the powder coated towers and multi-colored interiors...
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That black and red is really popular from the posts that I have seen. I kind of dig the flake, or just a different color on the nose. Just something different that adds to the design. The power coated tower is so good looking...
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The first one that's black, white and red with black tower made me drool!!!
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Say a man wanted to order one like what's pictured above. What we talking? Mid to high 40's? 50's? 60's? I guess also depending on what your dealer is willing to work out?
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From what I know Chase, you're looking at mid to high $50s. A higher volume dealer like Texas MC may be selling them for less? Nevertheless, its a bargain in today's world!
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that second black/red is tough!
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I sure wish I could have been working and the age I am now about 10 years ago haha I'd be sitting in a new tomcat for like 30k :P
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I really like the black towers, but guess they get hot like anything else black.
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Jon I have a black powder coated tower it does not seem to get as hot as the black top deck. I am guessing the aluminum tower does not retain heat like everything else. The black top deck on my boat will get you if you put your arm on that black gunnel in the Texas heat.
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All the Texas MC MB's are very nice! Powdercoat is the way to go... i know i've posted it lots of times and it's not even an F21 but....
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^^^^best and classiest color combo ive ever seen on MB
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Looking at Ian's and thinking about the nose flake one... What if you powder coated the sides white and left to tower itself the same color... Anybody have pics of this process or idea?
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I'll take a B52 over the Tomcat anyday! I just like the traditional pointed bow better. Havent warmed up to the pickles yet. I have rode behind a B52 (wakeboarding) and can truely say the wake is awesome!
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I bought a 21WB over the F21 because...
1) the cabin is wider in the WB. 2) the bow difference is minor and hardly used. 3) I prefer smaller understated pickles like you find on Tige boats. |
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Ian - WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY nicer than the white with strange orange graphics one you had. |
So what's the price difference in the 21WB and the F21? Are the wakes identical?
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21WB vs F21. Same price. Same wake. Take your pick.
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For whatever it is worth (I'm guessing not much) the 21 WB is $1500 cheaper than the F21 with identical options at my local dealer.
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