Transworld Wakeboarding Tige Z3
This looks amazing. The best themed boat I've seen in a while. TIGE
http://wakeboardingmag.com/boats/201...rding-tige-z3/ |
Wow.. that boat looks amazing..
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very understated and classy...lol. just not my style i guess.
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Looks pretty cool. What drivers seat is that? I've never seen that one before! Looks like a recliner!
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rode it last week on clear lake its pretty sick. it also has a super gnarly surf wave
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I don't understand why that boat needs 4 rev 10s, the design itself is LOUD!!
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when are we going to see a wake pic of this thing once and for all?
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The question is, why doesn't it need them?
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^^^^hahahahaha^^^^^^
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Here's a video with some wakeshots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EoVp...32FAAAAAAAACAA <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2EoVpQvA0Bo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Man it looks like papa smurf vomitted up a blueberry pie all over that thing. I like daves WW Z3 so much better.
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No way robert. The Z3 is a sick boat, no doubt. The wrap is what looks hideous to me. I like the boat, I like what Tige is doing and how they revealed their new flagship without all this hype like mc and nautique is doing. They just built a new boat, threw it on the water, and let it speak for itself. respect.
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no prob. I should have been more specific. it looks like papa smurf vomitted all over the OUTSIDE of that thing. I think its hideous. No disrespect to Tige or the people who picked that wrap, I just don't get it. Same goes with the Humanoid wrapped A22. Stoked humanoid chose axis for their team boat, just bummed out cuz the cream colored wrap does not look very good, makes the boat look dirty and old, and does not really reflect some of the awesome graphics that humanoid has on their boards. Daves WW machine is nice and clean and can appeal to most... heres to hoping that the 2 axis A22's that Liquid Force is wrapping turns out well.
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Liquid Force has always made the Supras look good in the past.So i see no reason they can't do a good job with Axis!
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Like the wrap, not a fan of the interior.
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And the reason the Z3 was released without fanfare is because, to be honest, a new Tige is no big news like a new flagship from Nautique or Mastercraft.
And whether the product "will speak for itself" remains to be seen. |
no pic of wake yet......
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Have no doubt about people being excited about the boat looks legit. But I'm sick of these people who feel the need to bash CC or MC at every convenience, so I'll say it...."new Tige...? Who cares?" That is why there is no hype, no fanfare, no threads with 250 responses, and no one outside of a few guys who helped design the surf wake who think the release of the Z3 compares to a new Star or flagship SAN. Hell, the new F24 will have more people drooling than this.
Nothing against Tige, just sick of big-three hating. |
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One reference to MC and CC hyping their releases and one mention about the new XStar not being released before Z3 wake pics. Guys taking cheap shots gonna get them sent back.
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Troy: I was the one who referenced MC and nautique about their hyped flagship release. I REFERENCED that those 2 companies are hyping the release of their new boats = FACT. not a cheap shot. Not bashing. Not hating. Not saying they should not do it. Not saying it was wrong. Not saying ONE thing negative about their choices on how to reveal their new boats. Just stating the fact, followed by a compliment to Tige for the way they revealed their new boat.
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Have a 210. I am currently looking to upgrade to something bigger. Either a 230 or a X-25, however, am excited about what CC will unveil here shortly. Will also consider the new Star assuming the wake is excellent. As an engineer I will agree I am overly picky about some things and like my boats overbuilt. CC and MC IMO meet this criteria.
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Maybe Tige's warranty is superior. I don't know. Why don't you educate all of us and actually give us the facts. Kudos to Tige if they do offer a much better warranty. Speaking of Kudos, Kudos is a 1.07 oz (28 g) milk chocolate granola cereal bar produced by Mars, Incorporated. It is currently offered in four varieties: M&Ms, chocolate chip, Snickers, and peanut butter. When initially launched in 1986, there were three varieties: chocolate chip, nutty fudge and peanut butter. The original formulation of the bar was much more candy bar-like, with less focus on the granola, although the original intention was still to offer a healthier candy bar alternative. The Kudos bar was not just made as a granola bar but also as a candy type too, having M&Ms and chocolate all over the bar. The original slogan was "Kudos, I'm yours!" In 2006, Kudos won American Culinary ChefsBest Best Taste Award. |
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That being said, IMO Tige has a great warranty. Their Service 360 Plus is a great added benefit and one that is not offered by anyone else (I don't believe...According to the MC sales rep when I was boat shopping, it is not offered by anyone, Tige included.) Here is the basic Tige warranty outline: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...8/08ca29bf.jpg |
Are any aspects of Tige's warranty / unlimited 360 service plan optional, or are they all standard?
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Here is what I pulled from Correct Craft's website:
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Seems like CC's warranty provides greater coverage in some areas (extra 2 years parts coverage for upholstry) than Tige does, but it seems that Tige's gelcoat warranty may be a bit better than CC's. In either event, CC's warranty appears to be comparable to what Tige offers. I certainly don't view Tige's warranty as being superior overall. If I have time, I'll pull MC's.
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Here's tige's actual warranty info that I pulled from its site. Robert, perhaps you should open your owner's manual and read the actual warranty applicable to your boat before you start making comments....
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Two things that jump out at me after reviewing the details of Tiges' warranty are: (1) Tige only offers one year parts & labor, and then you are stuck paying for labor after one year of ownership; and (2) swim platforms are not covered.
My observations are based only on what I attached above, which was extremely hard to find on-line. Obviously, there may be additional terms that I am not aware of, or the warranty may have been revised. If there is something more recent out there explaining the scope of Tige's warranty, please feel free to post it up. |
Here's what I pulled from Mastercraft's site:
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It appears that MC's warranty covers parts & labor for the entire warranty period for the original owner. Hopefully someone can chime in here and confirm if this correct.
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The most aggravating part of any boat thread on here is how a good percentage of owners are completely blind to anything good unless it falls under the specific brand they own. Why not appreciate the pluses in every line, and cut the crap talk and blindness to any shortcomings with your brand of choice? I love Nautiques, but I won't blindly defend them either.
Tige impresses the crap out of me, but they still are a step below CC & MC for fit, finish, and materials in my eyes. They are a good bit cheaper though too. It's all relative... |
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I would imagine all of these manufacturers who sell similar boats are aware of the warranty coverages of their competitors. After briefly reading each of the above, IMO they are all pretty close. I can't see the warranty differences between these 3 being the deciding factor or even a benefit except for maybe the Tige 360 Service Plus. I think if you cost out what that covers though it's such a drop in the bucket that it really doesn't matter. It did give me a nice warm feeling about my boat but that could have just been my wallet burning! ***As an additional reminder, the comments above were stated (whether noted or not) 'In My Opinion'. |
Why do self proclaimed "best built, highest quality" boat companies have the longest warranties? Tige, MC, and CC claim to be of the highest quality, if true, why do they even need a warranty for the things that they build. Yes, offer a warranty on the driveline, throttle, guages and steering systems because those things are built by someone else. But hull structure, gelcoats, interior, towers, etc... are built in house. If these are the best, then prove it by not offering a warranty at all and see how well your company does over the next 5-10 years. If you are the best, you will have no problems with your boats and will have an increase in customers.
the "lower quality" boats have less warranty coverage but still sell a ton of boats. Off hand I can tell you that Axis does not provide a warranty as good as the big 3 or Tige, but they are selling boats like crazy. 3 years into the project is too soon to tell for sure, but they are bu backed machines and are holding up very well so far. I would love to see this ad from Mastercraft: "Our boats are built the best, by the best, with the best materials and processes. So you do not need a warranty. Mastercraft. Respect" |
Whether you want to believe it or not, you pay for the warranty. Ever buy a hot water heater and you can get one with a 2 year warranty for $279 but the 10 year one is $500 and looks exactly the same? It is the same, you're paying for the warranty. LOL
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My point was simply that MC does not appear to modify its coverages by utilizing a hybrid labor + materials vs. materials w/o labor warranty coverage.
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I believe Axis has a 3 year engine warranty, 1 year parts and labor bow to stern warranty, and a 2 year parts only bow to stern warranty. I'll try to find the fine print. Yes, it's less than what the big 3 offer.
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While this goes beyond the scope of what Robert brought up in his comment about how MC and CC's warranties are supposedly inferior to Tige's, in light of a comment by another poster above, here is the Axis warranty info:
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Bruizza can probably chime in on that Axis warranty...
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So from whats posted above - looks like Nautiques warranty has the most/longest coverage, not Tige's...
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I'm sure Tige, MC and CC have had their share of lemons too. Sounds like Bruizza was happy about how things were handled overall.
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tige covers your gel for 5 years nautique 3, tige bow to stern 3, nautique 3 or 5 depending on what it is. Tige touch 5 years vs linc 3 years... i mean honestly i think youre just trading off on a year or two for one thing or another?
they both seem better than mc the "best built" brand... |
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Robert - "They have the "Best Warranty" in the industry.You should really look closely at MC and CC Warranty,after you get to the fine print there isn't much they will cover."
YOU said that, not me... need a snorkel? |
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Sure I can - I said " So from whats posted above - looks like Nautiques warranty has the most/longest coverage, not Tige's"
"FROM whats POSTED above, LOOKS LIKE...." responding directly to "You should really look closely at MC and CC Warranty,after you get to the fine print there isn't much they will cover" I never claimed Nautiques was best. I said it looked like it was from the fine print posted above. Since it was said that if you go to the fine print "there isnt much they will cover". |
comprende amigo?
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i mean i guess....
regardless if you really look at the fine print, each of the two companies warranties picks up where the other drops out. you trade gel blister coverage for stitching coverage etc.. and all that aside it seems like they have pretty similar coverage which looks to be pretty strong |
great coverage for sure - no doubt about that.
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I absolutely love how this thread turned from the OP showing the new transworld Z3, to everyone boasting about how good their own boats warranty is. In all my 22 years of life being around a full service marina I have never seen a boats hull fall apart. All this warranty talk is as relevant to the thread as a banana is to building a boat.
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with that said lets get back to it.
Not a huge fan of the seat, looks super comfy and cool but reminds me too much of a barbers chair, would you like a shave with that ballast? |
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1 Tige has a lifetime hull replacement warranty-If YOU HAVE STRUCTURAL HULL DAMAGE FOR AS LONG AS YOU OWN YOUR BOAT-WE WILL GIVE YOU A NEW ONE. Nobody else has that.You can't put a price on peace of mind of a potential new wakeboat buyer getting ready to spend 70,000 to 100,000 bucks on a new boat. 2- 360 plus service-we do all the factory required maintanance for the first Three years.Also for the first time buyer peace of mind just take it to the dealer and he will do everything it needs for the first three years while you get used to your new boat and enjoy it. 3-Tige has a better gelcoat warranty and in the fine print it states interior,carpet ect that has a manufacturer warranty longer than three years will be covered, Your a First time buyer.You look at comparable Correct Craft,Mastercraft and Tige.You see two manufacturers that cost 15 to 20% more and don't have the same warranty or service plan?Which company are you going to think cares more about you. I'm in sales i like to make my points verbally.Chatts a Lawyer he likes to argue his point.I understand all that.Migs i owned a Correct Craft for 15 trouble free years.You have never seen nor will you see me write that a Nautique is a bad boat or has a bad wake or is inferior in build quality.I could afford any wakeboat they make,but i can justify owning a Tige because of the Quality and value for the dollar compared to others.Everyone respects their own boat brand.But when someone says yours is inferior and doesn't provide specific facts it makes you mad.This little post took me half an hour.Now you know why i hate to get into long discussions that aren't verbal.:DHappy Boating Everyone. |
All this talk about warranty and nobody brought MB into this? :eek:
Jk jk..all in all it must be nice to own a boat with a warranty at all. I wouldn't complain a bit if I even had a itty bit of warranty. Better than none! |
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Since we are comparing warranties between Tige, CC, and MC, somebody post up the details of the Malibu warranty as well. This is an informative thread and it would be nice to really understand all of the differences. For example I see a lot of talk about PCM or Ilmor being superior engines to Indmar, but Indmar is the only one offering a fully transferrable 5-year engine warranty.
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5 years?
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5 years is a industry leading warranty.But J.D. Powers has PCM #1 in initial customer satisfaction in the first year of ownership.So people have confidence in PCM too.Both are problem free motors.I'M not as familar with the Ilmor motors so i can't speak about their reliability.Malibu makes a excellent boat as well as CC and MC.
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On another note, did you sell your Axis or are you gonna keep it for another season? |
These threads are amusing.
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The '11 is gone and a '12 is on order. I'll do a writeup when it comes it at the end of April. I can't wait!
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Axis covered all warranty issues we had. Also a lot of issues ended up being Indmar related not Axis.
Time to turn this into an Indmar vs PCM thread....... Anyone else just wish the weather would turn the corner and we could just all get out of our boats? |
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