Tantrum Help
 

Hey guys, I will post a video as well, but I want to kind of talk through what I feel is happening so maybe you guys can help me figure this out... I understand the trip and always go w2w (minus the only video that I have lol) I feel like the first 3/4 of the rotation is on point, as I start coming down to land I always land perpendicular or switch though and it really makes me mad! :banghead: I probably could do a tantrum to revert, but really want to learn it correctly... Btw, I only have one hand on the handle, not really down with the double handed tantrum lol. If you guys can give me any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

First thing you need to start practicing is initiating the trick on time. You are throwing it way too early and not getting enough pop to clear the wake. Stand taller and be sure u throw it at the tip of the wake. You will go much higher and will be able to get a clear view of your landing. u can work on your revert thing from there. Good luck!

will do, will try next time I head out and post results. Thanks for the advice man.

What jrich said plus it looks like you may be taking a pretty narrow cut. Start out wide and get on it for a good tantrum.

I use to have the same problem, especially with MC rampy wakes. What I did to fix it is a nice long cut in, and lower my butt on the approach, at the trip (which your trip was early) I ensure I am standing tall. After the trip, I try to focus on bringing up my knees and almost think about grabbing the board. You will almost feel like you were double jumped on a trampoline if you hit it right. When that happens, you will have tons of time and a nice clear view of your landing, and in most cases a easier landing than a large wake to wake jump. I cant tell how fast your going but I would also consider bumping up .3 or .5 mph. Good luck! Let us know when you land it!

Thanks guys! I will be out in the next week or so I'm hoping so I'll post an update next time I ride!

I had a similar problem when I was learning the tantrum. What was causing it, I think, was leaving too early.

What really helped me was focusing on approaching and waiting to hit the wake like I was doing a wake jump to the flats, then abruptly tripping--you really have to wait till the last second. You'll feel the pop and then you'll get booted and be able to spot your landing really quick, making it easy to land.

Different suggestions help different people, so here is mine. For timing, every time a do a tantrum, I focus on the very top of the wake. Even looking at it under my lead arm as I change edges. Then square up and stomp my front foot on the top of the wake. You really have to wait to get the full boot. Try going to late on one.

@Brian thanks man, I appreciate the advice, everyone keeps telling me to throw it later, but it didn't really make sense to me. Your explanation makes a lot more sense! I can do scarecrows really consistently and was wondering if the trip flip edge is the same concept with the tantrum? I was thinking about it today and it does require a "trip" (at least it seems that way to me) or am I just imagining things and they are totally different?

Yes, it's a trip flip. Good Luck.

All of the advice about waiting to the top of the wake is definitely key, and good advice for most tricks...

With your tantrum.. I think that your issue of landing perpendicular, this tendancy to go to revert is happening because you're looking forward/at the boat too long. At some point as you're riding to the top of the wake and squaring up for the pop, try to look away... Your chin should be closer to your left shoulder when you take off, looking away from the boat. I think this will fix your revert issue. Good luck

So I did everything, tripped way later, looked away from the boat and cut in from farther out... Going w2w and past consistently and make the rotation every time, but I still am landing completely flat or switch, amazed I haven't caught a toe edge yet... Any advise, please, I'm so close!

More video!

Stomped it last night! Didn't have an opportunity to video because there were so few of us on the boat. I will get a video up as soon as I ride next, I really appreciate all of your help, it is a ridiculously fun trick when I land it lol. Btw, for those of you who are wondering, i figured out what I was doing wrong. I was rotating with my front shoulder which is why my board was always 180 or flat. I started focusing on using both feet instead of just my back foot when pop and that helped a ton and finally sticking my head out to watch for the landing.

Congrats on landing it!

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Thanks bro!

That wake you've got there looks ssoooo fun, on the side.

Oh heck, ya man, that wake is mackin'. I still haven't ridden with full weight this year, I will have to post a video next time I go out and ride with full weight.

btw, if you ever make it out to Eastern Washington, pm me, be more than happy to let you give that wake a go!:)

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