whats the secret how do i get the board to stay with me and how fast should i be going?

what i do is cut out real hard and when there is slack in the line make sure you are centered on the board then ollie and use your back foot for rotation and your front foot to keep the board steady. then land and ride away ( thats what i do)

what i do is cut out real hard and when there is slack in the line make sure you are centered on the board then ollie and use your back foot for rotation and your front foot to keep the board steady. then land and ride away ( thats what i do) i have been using one wake to throw them now to for extra height, its pretty sick.

thanks ill try that! <BR>

I do them at normal pull speed, and keeping the board under you is just a matter of feel, and timing. I usually pull them on my toeside out pretty wide, but I dont have slack in the rope. <BR> <BR>Luke I have tried them with one wake, but can't keep the board under me...sometimes I land on the board, but usually to far to the front or back....that is sweet that you are doing them over a wake.

is it possible to do shov-its without slack?

I don't have slack when I do them.

when i use one wake i dont have slack but when i learned them i cut out the threw it when i was like drifting.