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Centurion building Supreme ?
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Fineline Industries owns and builds both.
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That swim platform is SO SMALL
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It's the new S21. Slightly smaller version of the 226
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Ballast is empty
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I have a MB F21 Tomcat and the platforms are high also.
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Let me get this straight. You guys are saying there are people who can wake surf but can't get out of the water if the platform is a few inches out of the water?
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So what height off the water solves your "issues"?
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I think for an unweighted boat the bottom of the platform should be around 3 inches off the water. It is just stupid to make a platform that high off the water max. There is no reason.
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I have to ask, do you guys like the giant "SURF" decals on the side of this boat? I find it pretty cheesy to spend $50-$60k on a new boat with decals like that.
Andthe platform is useless because it's an extra 2 or 3 inches out of the water? That's silly. |
Centurion and Surpeme have been linked for a long time I believe. I am not sure the exact details but Karl Koster was the West Coast Centurion dealer for a long time along with Supreme, Sanger. I believe Karl's daughter or something like that owned Supreme at some point and they may have been built by Fineline(Rick Lee). KArl also owned/owns reinell and blue water along with DHM trailers. I think Karl may have also been the west coast distributor for Mercruiser at some level as well. Notice all Centurions, Sangers and supreme's had mercruisers. I am not sure Kal Kustoms is even around any more. He is not the Centurion west coast distributor anymore and I am not sure if his daughter still owns Supreme or if that was sold off to Fineline. I think for the last few years Supreme's had actually been built in the old Calabria factory.
Karl had is hand in a lot of the west coast boat builders for a long time. |
LW, I can't tell what exactly you are trying to say. To say it is useless is a little overboard although I think it is completely unnecessary. The combination of the height, the lack of depth(front to back) and the narrow width of it make it quite possibly the worst tournament boat platform in a long time.
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All I meant was that if the platform is a couple inches out of the water, it really shouldn't make that big of a difference. Also someone posted above: "cause that thing looks like it'll be completely useless", hence my use of the term.
Too be honest I wish my platform was a little higher out of the water so when we weight it down, it's not 6 inches under water. |
2,800 lbs of available ballast might have something to do with it :) I have access to better photos of that boat. I will see if I can post them tomorrow.
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My guess is that was just a temp platform. Looks to be the same platform as the V226. Red boat is from Supreme FB page
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Id agree from factory that the Mojo is over the top on Graphics. I like mine naked....
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Levi, just the name on the side...Moomba is a bad enough name for a company but the last 2 model names is just stupid IMO.
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That Moomba color scheme is sick!!!!
I concur that the Surf graphic looks cartoonist and over the top on those boats. It detracts from the beautiful boat lines and graphics. I too think that swim step is too high. Have a couple girls I know they'd struggle a bit getting up on that thing. |
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I am one to say i like them naked... Nothing wrong with MOOMBA as a name. The graphics are a bit much tho.
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^^^^way better Hern. I'm with ya on the clean look if your boat
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Its a ****ty cell phone pic. The green pops allot better
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I like the overall boat but the surf graphic is something I would immediately remove. Supreme has never really been known as a cutting edge company in any sense in the ski boat market. Same applies for color schemes and graphics.
Honestly it makes almost zero business sense for Centurion to even keep the Supreme line alive assuming they fully own them. They are basically competing for the same market. |
Brett- the supreme is a very affordable boat for the person who can't afford a centurion Enzo.
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Brett, I purchased a Supreme for the surf wave, ability to handle the chop, and the value. Not cutting edge but a great package for my needs. Our summer season is only 3 1/2 months in Western WA as you know so it's hard to justify a 100K wake boat. I'm undecided on the surf graphics but I went with an all white look that doesn't contrast with the graphics too much. In 6 months when I actually get to use it they might come off. Hit me up for a run in the summer.
The business case I see is Centurion now has a value/ entry level brand. I.e. Supra/ Moomba, Malibu/ Axis as Fineline seems to be having success in moving the Centurion brand upmarket. The hull design of the V226 was also something I have heard they will start incorporating into new models of both brands. You can see the similarities in the new FX series. Not saying they are the same but there is definitely a family resemblance. Nice 42 footer by the way. GO DAWGS!! |
I'd go axis, then mb, then moomba if I was looking budget boat, not digging the supreme personally, no offense to any that own one, just not for me
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Are these the same towers as the new Sangers pretty much? Except for the curved side bars hey look really close to the swoop on the 2012-2014 v215 and v237'z
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Yeah you're right the Supreme is more for a professional level wakesurfer
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There's a Surf Supreme on our lake, probably the bigger one since it was there last summer. I thought it was a nice looking boat. The graphics are a personal preference but I didn't mind them. I think it's a nod to their ancestry and the SKI supreme graphic of yore.
Their pickle nose is one of the better adaptations of the Xstar design IMO. Some other brands really botched it. |
I thought somebody would recognize the launch ramp in the Delta. Or that the guy in the boat is Jason Lybeck of Team Supreme, wake surf pro from MN. His gf is there and couple factory or dealers from Merced. They were shooting video. Later James Walker another Team Supreme wakesurf pro showed up and the all went out to shoot some video in the mid 40 degree water...somebody told them to shoot the video in bikinis and trunks...I recommended drysuits! All they had was some full wetsuits...I am waiting for the video to see if he or she goes boardshorts over or what?...the suspense is killing me.
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http://vimeo.com/m/82843569
Video turned up of the S21 and looks like redo on the website for SkiSupreme. |
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