whats the pros and cons of these two boots

mareks have stiffer flex and are most supportive. <BR> <BR>murrays have medium flex and medium support. <BR> <BR>both are very comfy. maybe it was just me but the murrays seemed like they had a slightly higher arch.

i have heard on the forum about the murray footbeds on the 08s being slippery and having to wear socks was this fixed in 2009?

Yes, all of the 2009 hyperlite footbeds are different from last year. Also, each boot fits differently, I would definitely recommend trying them on before you buy a pair because each footbed has a different fit to it.