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-   -   Binding cam lock bolt hardware??? (http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232911)

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 6:20 PM

im looking for those bindings bolts that you screw into the board then cam lock down..ive seen them on a board but failed to see who made those cam lock bolts..who makes them? thank you

wickedwake 06-06-2005 6:46 PM

The are the Liquid Force F.A.S.T system cams. The call them "Liquid Cams" <BR> <BR>later, Clay

wake_upppp 06-06-2005 6:48 PM

Wasn't there some called Lokz or something. I think they went under or sold.

wakeworld 06-06-2005 8:05 PM

Liquid Force has licensed the technology from Lokz, but I'm not sure if Lokz makes them any more. I know that Liquid uses the design, but makes them themselves. Anyway, you should be able to get a set from your Liquid Force dealer.

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 8:16 PM

thank you..anyone know how long the screw is on the liquid cams? i need the screw to be at least 1" long to use with my NICE PSR1 Bindings....

wickedwake 06-06-2005 8:22 PM

Just measured...3 1/3 centimeters of thread and the actual screw with the 2 supplied washers is just shy of 3/4". Hope this helped. <BR> <BR>Clay

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 8:34 PM

so the end of the screw to the washer is 3/4" long? ...argh i need it close to 1" long

wickedwake 06-06-2005 8:37 PM

yes, the shank of the screw is a hair UNDER 3/4". I dont see what it has to be 1" long, you dont have to bottom the screws out. Now if the screws are too long then that would be a whole different story, but as long as you get at least 3 threads you should be good to go. <BR> <BR>Clay

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 8:46 PM

i tried to use a screw with the special counter sunk washer that was 3/4" long over all from end to washer..NICE PSR1 Bindings have a thick baseplate, exactly 1/2" thick..the Threads in my 2002 Hyperlite Project board dont start at the surface of the board maybe a good 1/8 inch below the surface of the board..what do you think?

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 8:48 PM

is that washer that comes with the "liquid cams" Allumiunum and thick? could you use a thinner nylon washer instead? to expose more thread?

dakid 06-06-2005 8:48 PM

dave, just curious, how did lf improve the technology? i still have a pair of lokz and compared them...exactly the same.

wickedwake 06-06-2005 8:52 PM

it is two thin nylon washers, im sure you could get by with one BUT it isnt going to give the 1"

wickedwake 06-06-2005 8:54 PM

Joe: BY "liscensing the technology" Im pretty sure he wasnt implying they improved on them (very simple design) They just bought the technology and put their name on it.

wakeworld 06-06-2005 9:01 PM

I don't know if LF has changed them at all. I'm assuming they are the same basic design, but I don't know for a fact. I just know that they licensed the idea because they thought it was a good one.

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 9:04 PM

im looking at a picture of the 2001 lokz and todays "liquid cams" they both look different..same design concept but the lokz have a trick bevelled alluminum washer..and they came in colors

dakid 06-06-2005 9:05 PM

dave, am i high (not really) or didn't your original post say that lf improved the technology?

wakeworld 06-06-2005 9:10 PM

You would be high...but they still may have despite your inebriated state. <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

wickedwake 06-06-2005 9:24 PM

aluminum washer= .05$ <BR>Krylon= .97$ <BR> <BR>

leykis1o1 06-06-2005 9:31 PM

are you being funny..no the lokz seamed to be annodized and even a different shape..the washer was machined and also annodized...anyways not sure if the "liquid cams" will work..does anyone know how thick the baseplate is on "liquid forces" bindings .. are they 1/2" thick then i think the "liquid cams" will work with my NICE PSR1's thank you

wickedwake 06-06-2005 9:36 PM

"are you being funny" <BR> <BR>Most of the time I try....(gets the tape measure out again...) The baseplate on my 05 Transits are a hair under 1/2".


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