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Geoffrey_Isringhausen 06-14-2011 9:03 AM

Best product to use for removing waterspots
 
Hey guys, are there any products that you have had good success with to remove hard water spots from the hull of your boat?

Thanks!

bcrider 06-14-2011 9:14 AM

Vinegar & Water
Babes Spot Remover

Geoffrey_Isringhausen 06-14-2011 10:06 AM

Great thanks, I'll try to babes spot remover. I've been using vinegar and water for a while and it works pretty good, but some of the bad spots stil won't come clean with it.

andy_nintzel 06-14-2011 10:09 AM

Vinegar and Water is the best thing on the planet. I spray the boat down after everyset with it. Just dont use it on the vinyl it really dies it out fast.

wakekat15 06-14-2011 10:38 AM

Babe's for sure! I can't stand the vinegar & water smell, personally. Babe's products both work and smell GREAT!

MoombaRiderJ 06-14-2011 11:51 AM

Do you use equal parts vinegar and water?...what ratio?

andy_nintzel 06-14-2011 11:52 AM

yeah the smell is horrible but its almost free!

CarFanatic5 06-14-2011 1:29 PM

Hot Sauce for boat bling!! Stuff is awesome!!

http://boatbling.net/products.php

NuBu 06-14-2011 1:53 PM

I use Ducky and it works great.

d_h_wake 06-14-2011 2:17 PM

Clr

baitkiller 06-14-2011 2:41 PM

Summers Eve

boarditup 06-14-2011 3:55 PM

Straight vinegar with a couple ounces of Zip Wax. Mix in a 20 ox spray bottle. 4 oz in a 32 ounce bottle.

BlitzedVLX 06-15-2011 9:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boarditup (Post 1686275)
Straight vinegar with a couple ounces of Zip Wax. Mix in a 20 ox spray bottle. 4 oz in a 32 ounce bottle.

Are you talking about the Car wash made by Turtle Wax?

http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Wax-T-7.../dp/B000AMBOX0

boarditup 06-15-2011 9:48 AM

Yes, that exact product. I've tried most of the rest, this works well and is so cheap to produce yourself. Try it, you have nothing to lose.

you_da_man 06-15-2011 10:10 AM

Duckys for me

trace 06-15-2011 11:23 AM

50/50 vinegar & water for daily use, and Ducky for scum lines & other problem areas.

fullspeed 06-15-2011 5:16 PM

I use this to get all my water spots out . Fine cut cleaner #2 I use it lightly. I even use it to get my water spots off my windshield.
I used it to get the haze off my car head light covers too. Been using this for years now.

http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/produc...p?T1=MEG+M0216

cwb4me 06-15-2011 5:34 PM

USE Hot Sauce from boat bling.It also leaves a mirror shine and protection in the water.

smitty1258 06-15-2011 8:28 PM

HOT SAUCE. Ive used babes, and spray waxes, etc...

HotSauce is by far the best product that I have used.

ilikebeaverandboats 06-15-2011 8:35 PM

For those using and liking Ducky, are you using a damp Chamoise to remove it? How long are you letting it sit?

Last time I used it, left a film thats been tough to get off...

I love the Babes products, green stuff smells awesome!

skongolf 06-15-2011 9:01 PM

I used the 50/50 mix of vinigar and water after every trip and it worked great at taking spots off, but it also took my wax off after a while. Didnt realize it till some oxidation that i worked my butt off to get rid of came back. So I will probly be trying the Hot Sauce next if I can find it locally.

Slideways 06-15-2011 9:45 PM

Hot Sauce for sure. We use it on our XLV and it works great.

clayton191 06-15-2011 10:32 PM

Vinegar + water, 50/50 ratio -- but I drop a bit of vanilla extract in the bottle and shake it up when mixing mine... Makes for a neat smell compared to just vinegar and water... serious, read this on wakeworld and it keep my boat spankin' clean...

you_da_man 06-15-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikebeaverandboats (Post 1686611)
For those using and liking Ducky, are you using a damp Chamoise to remove it? How long are you letting it sit?

Last time I used it, left a film thats been tough to get off...

I love the Babes products, green stuff smells awesome!

I hate Babe's Boat Brite but like their Seat Soap and Seat Saver. As for Ducky's...I spray on and immediately wipe off. I do sections at a time. Never had an issue with a film and I have a black boat.

fredlap 06-16-2011 2:49 AM

Scrub Free for bathroom... it's more "not so much scrub" than "scrub free" but it works really well!

john211 06-16-2011 4:26 PM

3/4ths elbow grease and ... umm ... 1/4th of about any of your favorite spot remover.

I use Babe's. The results are great. We have here hard lime deposits because our lakes have so much calcium in solution.

Sometimes, the effort that is required takes more elbow grease than the actual spot remover.

Fourspeednup 06-16-2011 5:24 PM

I happen to be a fan of Hot Sauce for removing hard water spots but may be a bit biased as the Director of Operations for Boat Bling Inc. ;)

Here's my $.02 on removing waterspots:

1) Be sure that the water spot is completely removed before waxing or you effectively seal it in under a coat of wax...you now have a shiny water spot

2) If water spot has been allowed to etch into the gelcoat, you're no longer looking at removing the mineral deposit, instead you now have a blemish on the gelcoat which may require concentrated acid or heavy compound/polish to remove

3) Vinegar is composed of acids (primarily acetic acid) and when used to remove spots will strip all wax. If used, be sure to follow up with a wax product of your choice

4) We have found that 'quick detailer' products designed for automotive use are not "stout" enough for use in harsh marine environments. They may work on fresh spots but the results will not be the same on older baked on spots.

5) - Quick sales pitch - Hot Sauce contains a chemical compund which removes the mineral deposit, combined with a silicone polymer wax sealant. It is not a replacement for a quality wax coat but serves to seal the gelcoat providing a slick surface which makes it difficult for water spots to stick. Waterspots will still be present after a day on the water but will be much easier to remove.

6) Shameless Plug: 10% off to all WakeWorld members! Use the promo code wakeworld at checkout on www.boatbling.net

I'm happy to go into further detail if anyone has specific questions or feel free to email me directly

Thanks
zack@boatbling.net

tx_foilhead 06-16-2011 7:47 PM

I've been using Babes Boat Bright, Vinegar and Wate for a couple of years. I mix it in equal parts in a handheld sprayer, just pump it up and mist. No spots, and after a couple of trips it begins to really shine.

Last year I put a coat of Collinite Fleetwax on and the hit it with straight vinegar and water, it lasted about a month before the wax was completely gone. We foil about 3 times a week, so that might be enough for a summer for some people. This year I did a double coat of the Colinte and after 3 weeks the spots are still wiping off so I haven't gotten the spray out yet. The real trick is making sure you don't wax anything in, and be sure and polish when you need to before the wax. I'm hoping to make it to Labor Day before I have to detail the gel again and I'll be real happy if I can make it to the 4th without using the spray.

jtech 06-16-2011 10:25 PM

+1 For Hot Sauce and all of their products. First ones I ever used and doubt I will bother with others for my LSV. :D

Geoffrey_Isringhausen 06-17-2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourspeednup (Post 1686878)
I happen to be a fan of Hot Sauce for removing hard water spots but may be a bit biased as the Director of Operations for Boat Bling Inc. ;)

Here's my $.02 on removing waterspots:

1) Be sure that the water spot is completely removed before waxing or you effectively seal it in under a coat of wax...you now have a shiny water spot

2) If water spot has been allowed to etch into the gelcoat, you're no longer looking at removing the mineral deposit, instead you now have a blemish on the gelcoat which may require concentrated acid or heavy compound/polish to remove

3) Vinegar is composed of acids (primarily acetic acid) and when used to remove spots will strip all wax. If used, be sure to follow up with a wax product of your choice

4) We have found that 'quick detailer' products designed for automotive use are not "stout" enough for use in harsh marine environments. They may work on fresh spots but the results will not be the same on older baked on spots.

5) - Quick sales pitch - Hot Sauce contains a chemical compund which removes the mineral deposit, combined with a silicone polymer wax sealant. It is not a replacement for a quality wax coat but serves to seal the gelcoat providing a slick surface which makes it difficult for water spots to stick. Waterspots will still be present after a day on the water but will be much easier to remove.

6) Shameless Plug: 10% off to all WakeWorld members! Use the promo code wakeworld at checkout on www.boatbling.net

I'm happy to go into further detail if anyone has specific questions or feel free to email me directly

Thanks
zack@boatbling.net

Thanks for all the help everyone!

Just bought some hot sauce, thanks!

NuBu 06-17-2011 1:21 PM

Joey C - I have had the exact same problem when I started using Ducky. It works best when the boat is a little wet or yes use a slightly damp chamois. Also remember a little goes a long way. I started using about half as much as I thought.

Fourspeednup 06-17-2011 1:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffrey_Isringhausen (Post 1687020)
Thanks for all the help everyone!

Just bought some hot sauce, thanks!

Thanks for the order Geoff! I'm confident you made the right decision:D

Post up a before/after pic once she's all cleaned up!

smitty1258 06-17-2011 7:00 PM

this might sound nasty BUT, since using hotsauce Ive only washed my boat in the start of the season, then halfway through, then before I put it away. The I use the sauce everytime I pull out, and it looks freshly waxed and washed until I put it back in, even has the slick waxy film layer after applying when pulling out, really makes it shine.

wakewoody 06-18-2011 7:31 AM

waterspots
 
Does boat bling hot sauce have any uv protection?

wakebrdr94 06-18-2011 10:47 PM

hot sauce for sure, used to use ducky, but not since my neighbor turned me onto boat bling. he has an 04 part cat and the thing looks brand new. I was amazed when he told me how old his boat was, told me he only uses boat bling product, I was sold. Bought the whole line and couldn't be happier with the product

ajholt7 06-19-2011 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakewoody (Post 1687187)
Does boat bling hot sauce have any uv protection?

Yes, it has wax in it. Best product I have used.

mach90 06-21-2011 5:12 AM

I'd love to hear the thoughts of anyone who's knowledgeable regarding the chemistry involved between the gelcoat, fiberglass, and the process below. Giving credit where credit is due; this is not my idea or post, it's copied/borrowed from a post over on the TheMalibuCrew (link below if you want to read the full thread). It sounds legit to me, however I'd hate to learn the hard/expensive way that something was ruined by a strong acid!


...
"I know I'll catch some grief for what I am about to advise but it works like a charm. The active ingredient in bathroom cleaner that works on boats is Hydrochloric acid. Unfortunately the concentration of HCL in bathroom cleaner is not strong enough to remove the harsh yellow stains you speak of. I live on a lake that stains my boat yellow also. What I use is to remove the stain is MURIATIC ACID.

Muriatic acid in concentrated HCL and can be bought at most hardware stores. You absolutely need to wear SAFETY gear when using this, such as rubber gloves, eye protection, and a breathing mask when mixing!

I mix a cup of Muriatic acid to one gallon of water. Simply saturate a cloth, rub it on your boat and walk away. It takes about 10 minutes to work, less if you are washing your boat in the sun as sun helps to activate the process. It's great because you do not have to scrub or rub, it is a labor free process that will remove any and all water stains plus the deep yellow stains from dirty water. On top of that, it will not hurt your gel coat (although you will need to apply fresh wax when you are done).

NOTE: Do not get this mixture on any rust on your trailer. It will only make the rusting worse. On the plus side though the run off from when you rinse the boat will clean your driveway cement."


... here's the link ...
http://www.themalibucrew.com/forums/...h/page__st__20

Fourspeednup 06-21-2011 1:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajholt7 (Post 1687320)
Yes, it has wax in it. Best product I have used.

Appreciate the kind words everybody! This is correct, Hot Sauce does contain a silicone polymer wax sealant which will provide some degree of protection from UV damage but we still strongly recommend a quality wax coat be applied at the beginning of the season and if used frequently another coat mid-season. Hot Sauce maintains the waxed surface of the boat, but is not a replacement for quality wax.

Fourspeednup 06-21-2011 2:07 PM

Muriatic Acid is the product of choice for professionals doing an "acid bath" treatment of the boat. It wil remove heavy stains from rust, mineral deposits, etc along with any old wax built up in the gelcoat. A few boat owners I know even have an acid bath done annually to ensure they start with fresh, clean gelcoat every season. IMO it's overkill but to each their own.

Personally, I would only trust a licensed and bonded professional detailer to touch my boat with muriatic acid since it's such an extreme measure and the potential for injury and/or damage to metal hardware is a bit more than I'm willing to risk personally...but again, to each their own.


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