have seen a couple of these for sale in the area and was wonder if anyone had any experience with them or if they really give any kind of a wake to speak of at all, i didnt realize that bayliner had ever even made a v drive?

As I recall both Bayliner &amp; Mastercraft were owned by the same parent company at that time. Bayliner decided they wanted to get into the more specialized wake &amp; ski boats &amp; with MC's help came up with the Wake &amp; Ski Challenger. Notice how much the Wake Challenger looks like the Maristar. <BR> <BR>Overall they were a descent boat, especially for being a Bayliner. There is one on my dock now. It's biggest downfall is the tower. It's about a rickety POS &amp; should definitely be tended to, if not replaced. <BR> <BR>A friend of mine had one in TriCities, WA for years. He ran a Samson tower &amp; used to weight it with like 3k lbs &amp; it kicked out a great wake. Even had descent power with an upgraded prop. He used it for like 5 or 6 yrs and he was into it for like $15k. Two years ago he upgraded to a $60k LSV. I'd be willing to bet he had as much fun on that Challenger as he will on the LSV, for a lot less money! And he stuck tons of tricks behind it.... 3s, 5s, Crows, Tantrums, Raleys, backrolls, etc.

I used to own one and it was a freaking great boat. The wakeboard wake is one of the best I have ever ridden, and I have some ex-pro buddies and they thought it was as good or better than there current xstar. I had hidden ballast system around 2.5k total and the wake was firm and big. I installed a tower, and it wasn't the best, if I was to do it again, I would spend the money and get a samson or something of nature. The interior also fell apart, but that is easy to fix and wasn't to expensive. I also installed perfect pass and a big stereo.

I have a maxum 210ss, basically the same as the bayliner except for the color. <BR> <BR>Awesome boat for the money. Loads of standard features like shower, heater, motorised engine hatch, cockpit lights etc. I have perfect pass, ballast, tower, lights, big stereo and more on mine now. <BR> <BR>They are very similar to a mastercraft maristar 210vrs both in and out.

road behind a friends one a off-and-on. Great boat...one of the better wakes i've ridden. Great price point. he put in excess of 1500 hour on it with very little troubles.