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goinbigg17 01-04-2009 11:55 AM

I was driving to work this morning and passed the local Nautique dealer and noticed a new tower. I though it was ugly as can be. Anyone actually rode behind it yet or have any thoughts? <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.nautiques.com/boatpages/210" target="_blank">http://www.nautiques.com/boatpages/210</a>

helix_rider 01-04-2009 12:05 PM

I'm not a fan either....but as with many really pricey items, there is a market for the 'unique' look...and you are bound to get some 'love it' and 'hate it' responses. The tower is what I've always felt was the downside to a nautique...and they patented them, you'd think theirs would be the best?!

nwarhol1105 01-04-2009 12:23 PM

I believe you can choose a from a few different Flight Control Towers...its just the new one for this year. That makes my Monster Tower look gorgeous.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>

bigshow 01-04-2009 12:42 PM

So no one likes the overhead board storage and easy fold down? Looks like a good design to me. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Bigshow on January 04, 2009)

deuce 01-04-2009 12:45 PM

With the bimini/rack it looks better.... Alone, it is a bit of an eyesore IMO. Though I am sure function, it may be the best of the three? Who knows.... <BR> <BR>Regardless, you have 2 other options(2 total)....FCT 1 being my choice....

deuce 01-04-2009 12:46 PM

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>By Show (bigshow) on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 12:42 pm: <BR> <BR>So know one likes the overhead board storage and easy fold down? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>Yes...and yes.... <BR> <BR>Though my only experience with them is the video I just watched....

01-04-2009 1:11 PM

It's functionality looks great, but you couldn't pay me to put that monstrosity on my boat. Who at CC actually thought that design looked appealing? Yikes!

wakerider111 01-04-2009 1:24 PM

it swoops like an "S" for "SUPER" and "STAR"... maybe that has nothing to do with it?... <BR>I don't think it is too, bad, but i think it is bordering if not entering the abstract world where you see those sculptures that look like nothing at all. <BR> <BR>i do like the overhead rack and fold down too <BR> <BR>now where is the cash to buy one or even the lucky ticket to get one free ;)

phil_dixon 01-04-2009 1:26 PM

new tower looks awesome

wakeslife 01-04-2009 2:12 PM

I guess I'm one of the few that likes it. The black/white 210 with the black tower on their site looks great IMO

goinbigg17 01-04-2009 2:18 PM

I can dig the overhead board storage and the bimini, but the tower itself is just plain ugly. <BR> <BR>Driving by, it looked more like those roll bars that you used to be able to buy.

colombiansurfer 01-04-2009 4:15 PM

Kinda favors the new Centurion tower.

luke_j 01-04-2009 4:40 PM

like a centurion had sex with a malibu

benjaminp 01-04-2009 5:55 PM

I like the looks of the tower, not so much the storage rack up top. Looks pretty good on Byerley's Icon Edition 210, cover of the WBM boat buyer's guide.

mikes 01-04-2009 7:28 PM

^^^^^Ben,that's not the tower he's talking about.

ponte_06_x2 01-04-2009 8:47 PM

just tell nautique to stop messing around with ugly towers and boats and just bring back one of the best boats." THE 210." i believe the 06 was the last of the legacy.

westsiderippa 01-04-2009 8:53 PM

^^^^^^second that^^^^^^^^ and a 2001 in a v drive closed bow!!

greatdane 01-04-2009 9:51 PM

In the past, I have been very critical of CC. <BR> <BR>Honestly, I like the new tower. I also like almost everything about the boat. I only have a few small complaints... 1) the interior is overly complex and 2) the scalloped transom is awkward and not very useful.

bfnaci 01-04-2009 10:09 PM

Yea that's pretty ugly, hard to believe they couldn't come up with something more attractive than that. <BR> <BR>Sure has a nice wake though, that's all that counts in my book.

wakedad33 01-04-2009 10:09 PM

I saw it last night at the Portland show, not a fan of the tower, but thought the snap-in carpet was cool. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/656729.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/656730.jpg" alt="Upload">

aidansdad 01-05-2009 7:48 AM

I think CC was going function over form. Super easy to fold down, directable speakers, looks ike the rope wouldn't get caught in the racks doing a pick-up. Personally, I'd still take the FCT-1, but I think this is CC's answer to keep up with Malibu/Centurion/Tige who all have the Illusion type towers w/o legs in ront of the windshield.

snapwake71 01-05-2009 9:45 AM

you have to see the tower and feel how sturdy it is and then you well like it it is preaty sick in person. and

robertr720 01-05-2009 11:17 AM

I agree on the tower, it took some getting used to for the eyes, but I like it. Our shop is using a different bimini that will be made by tower biminis, it looks pretty slick cause it runs over the tower. I have had the chance to ride behind a 230 with the new tower and it works great. the tow point is easy to reach especially with the over the top biminis. The racks are very functional although I have not seen a pair that doesn't have a bit of play when "locked in". Roswell is the making the new tower and racks for CC. I am and always will be a fan of the way that the old tower looks but I am also one to choose function over form. Until you drive any boat with an "illusion style tower you don't realise how much the increased visability helps. I can fold it up and down by myself with a pair of 485s and a bimini on the tower, to some that will mean a lot. Some like it some don't but that's why you can option on another tower although most dealers are going to stock boats with the new tower, because it's new, different, and functional. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by robertr720 on January 05, 2009)

nautiques210 01-05-2009 12:38 PM

Once you see this tower in person you will love it and the look grows on you and i believe it is the best tower design nautique has come up with yet to fit there great boats.

greatdane 01-05-2009 1:04 PM

I think the tower looks cool and I dig the functionality. I can't wait to see it in person. <BR> <BR>Does anyone know if they made any changes to the interior or dash?

balr54 01-05-2009 1:05 PM

Adam, do you ride on Big Turkey in Indiana?

steezyshots 01-05-2009 1:15 PM

I like it!

nautiques210 01-05-2009 2:08 PM

Jeigh yes i sure do

andy_nintzel 01-05-2009 2:13 PM

By Luke Johnson (luke_j) on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 4:40 pm: <BR> <BR>like a centurion had sex with a malibu <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>BAhahahahahahahahahahah awesome!

solo 01-05-2009 6:14 PM

I used the 09 tower for two photoshoots and have also ridden behind it. I do believe you have the option for either the new tower or a flight control tower. I like both. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/656980.jpg" alt="Upload">

wakeriderixi 01-05-2009 6:19 PM

That is a sick looking boat right there.

dmc_napa 01-05-2009 6:55 PM

Hey! Is that cheeseman (Chuck Payton) navigating that Super Air?

joshugan 01-05-2009 8:04 PM

I didn't like it at first but it's really grown on me. I'd still probably take another option but the Super Air in Hahn's pic is gorgeous!

solo 01-05-2009 9:01 PM

The one and only...

zachcopp 01-05-2009 10:03 PM

Those are absolutely sick looking boats!

amo 01-06-2009 5:17 AM

I,ve ridden behind and driven the new 210 with the FCT-3, and if I was getting a Nautique I wouldn't get any other tower. The vision from the cockpit is so much better. No obstructed views at all. They just clamp the mirror to the windshield. A 70 year-old lady could put that tower down by herself. Very user friendly.

aarond0083 01-06-2009 8:31 AM

Hate the new tower. Function may be great but I do not like the looks. My new 210 will have the Titan.

beckycarter 01-06-2009 9:04 AM

Are you joking me??? I LOVE the new design. It looks innovative. I've always been a huge fan of the Nautique wake. Personally, I never cared about what the boat looked like as long as it threw a wake that I was stoked on. Now I think that its one of the best sleek looking boats out there. <BR> <BR>But seriously guys, if you're stoked on a wake is it really THAT big of a deal on the "looks" of the boat? I mean yeah... don't get me wrong, sometimes it makes people look good to others when they have a "sick looking" boat, but if it has a cruddy wake than really... how "sick" are you then?

curtbernstein 01-06-2009 9:38 AM

all i gotta say is that carpet is HOT!!

curtbernstein 01-06-2009 9:39 AM

oh yeah.. and i think the new 210 is baller in every way (looks especially)

Slingshot 01-06-2009 9:42 AM

The boat looks so sick, but the tower looks horrible! I'm still a fan of the 01 style SAN. Sickest boat ever!

nosebleed 01-06-2009 10:38 AM

The only downside I see is you can't get a tower mirror. I can't wait to get in one

wakeboarder89 01-07-2009 3:07 PM

I agree with kyle, 01 style SANs are the sickest ever, new 210 not so much. Especially with that tower.

hehateme 01-07-2009 6:53 PM

I can dig it!!!!

hatepain 01-07-2009 7:43 PM

The tower (FCT3?) is growing on me but I still maintain the designer channeled Salvador Dali when they designed it.

nosebleed 01-07-2009 8:56 PM

^^^^"I still maintain the designer channeled Salvador Dali..." That's awesome.

wakebrdjay 01-08-2009 2:51 AM

It may not be the best looking tower but,it's the most solid tower you will find.It has no flex.If you shake it with the boat on the trailer it shakes the whole boat.As far as function it's one of if not the best one out there.

srock 01-08-2009 6:38 AM

It looks big and bulkly to me but it also took some time for me to adjust to the illusion tower.

dudeman 01-08-2009 4:23 PM

Might look better with the bimini up. How's that work. Any pics?

99_slaunch 01-08-2009 8:22 PM

Wait until you get close to that tower it's an eye sore. It is lacking craftsman ship (welds).

taft 01-08-2009 8:33 PM

Holding judgment til my local boat show. Not negative so far though.

lionel 01-08-2009 9:12 PM

Does the tower fold to windshield level or below? On the website videos I can't tell.

laptom 01-09-2009 2:57 AM

Aaron that is strange.. The ones I saw where perfect welded and of a excellent quality, like all post 2000 CC towers. Do you have pics of the flaws?!

wakebrdjay 01-09-2009 6:52 AM

I'll have to agree with Aaron,I've seen some crappy looking welds on their towers also.

kenv 01-09-2009 8:25 AM

Another thing to mention. I believe I heard that you can only get black now. When they first came out, you could get the Silver. Not sure what the material was. You can still find some of the first boat pics with the non-black FCT3. There was mention of finish issues. I have not seen the welds up close, but now I'm curious.

jarrod 01-09-2009 9:43 AM

Looks like Chuck Payton drivin that biatch

99_slaunch 01-09-2009 11:44 AM

I will get some pics. Hopefully they will show the crapsmanship.

seager_marine 01-09-2009 1:55 PM

I just opened our 216v and the welds look great. I have seen towers in the past with less than steller looking welds, but I am yet to hear of these welds being a real issue aside from there looks. <BR> <BR>Aaron, the first time I saw this tower I was not a fan to say the least and was not going to order one for stock. But function won out and the tower works well. Needless to say, it's also grown on me in the looks department...

pierce_bronkite 01-09-2009 1:58 PM

Anyone have a picture of the bimini, wonder how big it is? <BR> <BR>Never been a huge fan on CC but I do love the way this boat looks, aside from the tower. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by Pierce Bronkite on January 09, 2009)

99_slaunch 01-09-2009 2:22 PM

The tower itself (design) is not so bad. I would expect a better finish on the welds and plates for the kinda coin you will spend on that boat.

99_slaunch 01-09-2009 8:20 PM

The pics do not show much. Just something that needs to be seen in person. It looks like it was painted with a spray can. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/658169.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/658170.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/658171.jpg" alt="Upload">

hehateme 01-10-2009 6:06 AM

Is it powder coat?

rmcronin 01-10-2009 6:27 AM

im with the others on the hull. screw the tower, bring back the old hull!

wakebrdjay 01-10-2009 8:45 AM

It's not powder coat,it is kind of glossy.

tyler_jackpot_thurston 01-10-2009 9:22 AM

CC new FCT3 tower isnt even made by CC it was pawned off to roswell, jus like their FCT2 was sent to titan. . . for a company to complain so much about towers now they dont even make their towers. . . all they r trying to do is keep up with malibu spanking them in sales and wake perfection...

eas 01-10-2009 9:39 AM

I didn't read the whole thread, but isn't this the same type of reception Malibu got when they introduced the current tower? Of course, not everyone will like it, but similarly to the wakesetter, this new tower will grow on people. <BR> <BR>Also, I cannot imagine the tower not being powdered...??? And I'm pretty sure powder can be just as glossy as most coatings/paints so I wouldn't let the sheen confuse you.

bchesley 01-10-2009 11:24 AM

tyler you are right. this is because they are getting so spanked. I am with you....

ralph 01-10-2009 12:38 PM

Yikes, that interior looks hard to keep clean. I don't think I would ever own a boat with white carpet.

aarond0083 01-10-2009 2:06 PM

I saw a few of these Roswell towers in person today when I was ordering my new 210. Looked much better than in all the pictures I have seen, especially with the cargo bimini. I ordered my 2009 with the Titan by the way. <BR> <BR>I'm not a fan of the look but the build quality was great on all the boats that had the FCT-3 at my local dealership. Looked nothing like the pics above. It is painted black and cleared over top. It is not powder coated. It is definitely the most sturdy tower I have seen and it folds with very little effort. I still prefer the Titan but it is nice that CC gives you three towers to pick from on the Air boats.

wakeboard19 01-10-2009 7:19 PM

Not sure i like their new tower. But the new graphics are sweet!

flwa 01-11-2009 6:35 AM

as a first run on these towers guys you cant argue that they dont work well and I think thats what they were going for here. Is it amazing looking? well.... to each his own I guess. but it works really well! hopefully Correct Craft is watching these forums and then they head back to Roswell and say "make it pretty now, so the Malibu guys will quit picking on us." IMO

sidekicknicholas 01-11-2009 6:48 AM

The paint issue it most likely because all their towers from china aren't cutting it so they have been having to re-do them once they get here... at least that is what I have heard.

adam_balon 01-11-2009 3:23 PM

i dont mind it. i was unsure at first..... but with that rack loaded up with boards, the visibility and the ease of use i am sold. <BR> <BR>i like that brands are trying new things. as for roswell.... you have to give it to them for bringing new concepts to the table. a leader rather than a follower. <BR> <BR>if i was to buy a 2009 210 it would be with the new tower..... nautique needs to change the backseat configuration for one to be sitting on my boat lift. <BR> <BR>bring back the old 210 with a basic titan tower for under 30g's!!!!! the nautique 210og.

wakekat15 01-11-2009 3:50 PM

If it's custom made, I doubt it is made in China. <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.nautiques.com/boats/newfor09" target="_blank">http://www.nautiques.com/boats/newfor09</a>

brit_rider 01-11-2009 4:15 PM

Just to throw it out there, as someone who has experience with Roswell and most of the other major tower brands - I believe Roswell to make the nicest quality stuff on the market. Really nice quality and very well engineered. <BR> <BR>That paint finish definitely looks sketchy, but saying that I'd think there's a reason for it... maybe it was done by the dealer because they wanted black not silver or something? I think we need confirmation on that before we bash them too badly! <BR> <BR>I'm not a massive fan of this new design, but it is growing on me. I remember hating the newer style MC towers at first but not I think they look great! Same with the 'bu towers. <BR> <BR>Either way, its a shame that tower was allowed to be seen at a show with as poor a finish as that as its clearly not done either company any favours...

cheeseman 01-12-2009 10:07 AM

I drove the boat(230 SAN) that Hahn posted for three days for a Jr. Men's photo shoot. I currently have an 07' and 08'210 that I like a lot, better than than the 02' and 05' that I previously owned. However, that 230 SAN and tower IMO was was killer and would seriously consider buying one like it if I could sell one of may other boats.

woreout 01-13-2009 9:05 AM

A buddy of mine at the factory said those towers are made in China and when they get here CC has to take them directly to Ramlin to fix all the welds and blemishes. CC thought they were gonna save some money but it ended up costing them more in the long run.

greatdane 01-13-2009 1:42 PM

Ya, the picture above looks like a reworked tower -- that sucks -- often the longest path between two points is a short cut.

nosebleed 01-13-2009 1:50 PM

Its sad that companies try so hard to cut costs by exporting jobs. Like was said before it leads to a whole new set of problems. <BR> <BR>Its obvious that the finish is bad on that tower. I don't know anything about welding can anyone post about the difference between good welds and bad? I want to order my 210 but I don't want a poorly finished tower, especially for that price.

brit_rider 01-13-2009 1:56 PM

Dave - Its not the weld sin question on the tower, its the finishing. <BR> <BR>Anyone who has ever seen a tower made by Roswell, in China or in the USA will have seen their welds are absolutely spotless. They are perfect to a ridiculous level... <BR> <BR>Looks like they are getting scratched in shipping or at installation would be my guess.


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