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petrey10 03-26-2013 8:06 AM

Which Headunit and remote combo?
 
Boat needs a new headunit.... needs to be iphone AND droid compatible... need to be able to use a remote. I like the idea of a wireless remote but it needs to work well. If wireless doesn't work I would like to put a wired remote on the dash and possibly on the transom. I would also like the best sound quality I can afford.. that means not going too crazy on cost here. I plan on selling the boat towards the end of the year/beginning of next year.

I was pretty much committed to buy a Clarion m303 with MF1 remote but then there were some good some bad reviews so I thought I would get the opinion from you guys

petrey10 03-26-2013 8:09 AM

would love the usb port to be on the front if possible

cbarguy1 03-26-2013 11:07 AM

There aren't a lot of choices out there. Clarion is pretty common and has lots of accessories/features like you have mentioned. I wouldn't use their amps or speakers but I have their head unit and it's fine.

petrey10 03-26-2013 12:56 PM

i already have kicker amps, tower speakers, and coaxials.... its just time i got a headunit that made it easier for me as the driver to control... right now the girls have the controls in the glove box and well lets just say its hard to talk with a boarder

jonyb 03-26-2013 5:20 PM

I installed an M303 last week in a customers boat. It worked great, bluetooth functionality was good, overall I was impressed for the price point.

I have an M502 in my Can Am Commander with an MW1 wired remote. All of this works well, and it's been in there since August. The remote has been pressure washed, the radio has been around moisture, no problems. The 502 is essentially the 303 without in-dash CD. Both can use the same remotes.

The MW1 has a display, and ipod can be controlled through the remote. I plug in an extra ipod in the glovebox to the USB with an OEM ipod cable. iPod charges, and again can be controlled through the head unit or remote.

Alpine also has nice head units and remotes, except for the remotes are wireless and require initial programming. There is also a delay in the function when the button is pressed. 1 thing is that most people think they're wireless, but you still have to run 12V/ground to each remote. They're also a LOT more expensive then the Clarions.

xstarrider 03-27-2013 12:54 AM

I had the Alpine for a while but the delay in their remotes drove me and my wife nuts so I put back in my clarion M475. The real nice thing about the Alpine unit tho was it had 4v pre outs instead of the standard 2v. You won't fund that in many marine head units at all. For my system it def added a much better sound quality because I had some long RCA runs. Even with my Wetsounds 420eq. Also alpine has a great floaty keychain remote that works from the water if that interests you.





Sorry to hijack

Anyone know where to find the converter cable that converts the M303 8 pin remote port to the older 6 pin? Everywhere I have looked has been sold out.

I have 3 of the old original 2 inch remotes in my 2000 XStar and if I swap to an upgrade I am left with 3 useless remotes and/or a few empty holes.

petrey10 03-27-2013 6:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonyb (Post 1813649)
I installed an M303 last week in a customers boat. It worked great, bluetooth functionality was good, overall I was impressed for the price point.

I have an M502 in my Can Am Commander with an MW1 wired remote. All of this works well, and it's been in there since August. The remote has been pressure washed, the radio has been around moisture, no problems. The 502 is essentially the 303 without in-dash CD. Both can use the same remotes.

The MW1 has a display, and ipod can be controlled through the remote. I plug in an extra ipod in the glovebox to the USB with an OEM ipod cable. iPod charges, and again can be controlled through the head unit or remote.

Alpine also has nice head units and remotes, except for the remotes are wireless and require initial programming. There is also a delay in the function when the button is pressed. 1 thing is that most people think they're wireless, but you still have to run 12V/ground to each remote. They're also a LOT more expensive then the Clarions.


isn't the usb plug in for the m303 on the back of the head unit?? How do you plug the Ipod in at the glove box when the cable comes from the back?

petrey10 03-27-2013 6:20 AM

also does the MW1 remote fit in say one of the tach holes?

jagermeister 03-27-2013 6:58 AM

We used Clarion and Sony.. Both are good...

But the hot ticket is to buy a bluetooth receiver unit ($25), hook it into your 3.5in aux in jack.. And you have Bluetooth Phone, Mp3, or Ipod control... Works excellent... I hate wires......

nitrousbird 03-27-2013 7:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xstarrider (Post 1813711)
The real nice thing about the Alpine unit tho was it had 4v preouts instead of the standard 2v.

That is incorrect. The Alpine head units are all 2V unless you add the PXA-H100 Imprint sound processor, which then makes them 4V. I just ordered one for my iDA-X100M head unit, they can be had new for $115 shipped and around $80-90 used.

I find the remote delay for the Alpines to be pretty slight and has never been an issue for me, my wife, or anyone else that has used it. Alpines are not Android compatiable unless you are just running it through Bluetooth (which, as Alpine LOVES to do, requires another add-on device, the KCE-400BT).

xstarrider 03-27-2013 8:19 AM

Nitrous.

The CDA 9886M model from Alpine is def 4v's on the pre amps. It was one of the big reasons I opted for it . Besides the delay I couldn't find a really good spot for their ginormous remote. I had to pull the speedo and it made getting to it awkward. Just spoiled and used to that clarion right at my fingertips while my hand is on the shifter I guess.

Salt/Fog (ASTM B117) Certified
UV(ASTM G154/D4329) Certified
BioLite high-definition display
Blue Illumination
Rotary Encoder volume control
Spanish language compatible
Remote Control ready
24-Bit DSP with integrated DAC and 8x Oversampling
18W RMS/ 50W MAX x 4
Power Pack Ready – upgrade to full 45Wx4 RMS (coming soon)
3 Preouts (4 Volts)
IMPRINT PXA-H100 ready with Dual Input Capability (available March 08)
iPod Control
SAT Radio ready
HD Radio Ready with Multicasting
Ready for Bluetooth® wireless technology
Ready for USB mass storage devices
Ai-NET bus system allows connection to HD Radio w/Multicasting, Satellite Radio, CD Changer, and Aux Input (using the KCA-121B)

xstarrider 03-27-2013 8:32 AM

Double post sorry

petrey10 03-27-2013 11:52 AM

the thing I worry about bluetooth is running the battery down on my cell... doesn't bluetooth suck a lot of juice? granted yes I have a 12v plug to charge... i guess I am just new to the whole bluetooth thing... I don't use it on my droid

petrey10 03-27-2013 11:53 AM

i am leaning towards the Clarion m303 or maybe m309 (front Aux) with MF1 remote.... I guess there just isn't a perfect HU

chpthril 03-27-2013 3:05 PM

I do not know about all the Alpine mobile (car) head-units, but I can confirm that the Alpine Marine 9886M and 118M units are 4V outputs.

jonyb 03-27-2013 4:32 PM

Pete, you can find a mountable USB connector that has a waterproof cover. All it does is plugs into the USB, then you drill a hole in the fiberglass and mount it. That will allow you to plug the USB cable directly into it. Otherwise, it hangs off teh back of the radio, and you should have access there to leave the cable hanging down. I'll find one and post a link later.

9886M has 4V, 100M does not.

jonyb 03-27-2013 8:02 PM

Clarion CCA-USB: http://www.clarion.com/us/en/product...655104841.html

http://www.clarion.com/us/en/MungoBl...SB-US_01,9.jpg

Trpntj 03-27-2013 8:35 PM

Just throwing it out there, speakers/amp are not the greatest, but their HU's are becoming very popular. More for yacht industry, but with a NMEA backbone, it makes remote connections easy and the HU's are designed for ipods. The 600 unit is cheaper with the non color display.

http://www.fusionelectronics.com/con...sh_Low_Res.pdf

nitrousbird 03-28-2013 7:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xstarrider (Post 1813758)
Nitrous.

The CDA 9886M model from Alpine is def 4v's on the pre amps.

You are right, looks like it is their only marine unit that is 4V without the Imprint box.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chpthril (Post 1813801)
I do not know about all the Alpine mobile (car) head-units, but I can confirm that the Alpine Marine 9886M and 118M units are 4V outputs.

118M is 2V unless you have the Imprint box:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/cda-118m/Specs

edgeski1 03-28-2013 9:12 AM

the 9886m is now discontinued, so If you want one, buy it now!

chpthril 03-28-2013 9:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrousbird (Post 1813881)
You are right, looks like it is their only marine unit that is 4V without the Imprint box.


118M is 2V unless you have the Imprint box:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/cda-118m/Specs

Well, I was at least 50% accurate, I guess I could be a weather man ;) :D

chpthril 03-28-2013 9:51 AM

Quote:

the 9886m is now discontinued, so If you want one, buy it now
Word is, both the 9886M and the 118M have an end of life date and no word on replacement models. Based on the answer I didnt get to a question about the marine gear from an Alpine rep in their booth at the 2013 CES back in Jan, I dont think this is all the changes we will see. It was kinda like the vote of confidence the losing coach gets form management 2 days before the can him.

03-29-2013 4:23 AM

I got the alpine 9886 you can have iPod hookup, USB, and aux. I ran a splitter off the back of radio and ran one aux next to driver wear I ran iPod cable for droid phones then ran the other aux and the USB cord over to passenger side and got a seaworthy USB aux outlet I installed http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/29/hyjerugy.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/29/e6egeteq.jpg

jdb11386 03-29-2013 5:21 AM

Has anyone tried the parrot Bluetooth for the 9886. I installed it last year and never got it to work.

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk 2

petrey10 03-29-2013 8:07 AM

axis22 where did you get that cord/black outlet? that looks very nice.... I would be real happy with something like that

03-29-2013 7:50 PM

Amazon
Check this out on AMZN: Prospec Electronics SEA-USBMINI Seaworthy Marine MINI-2 Mini Plug for MP3 Players, iPOD and ... http://amzn.com/B001CDK400

volzalum 03-30-2013 9:21 AM

Here's another version as well. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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