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-   -   Any in water pictures of 08 MC Underwater LED? (http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=546704)

gti2lo 02-17-2008 3:52 PM

I am looking for real world pictures of Mastercraft's LED underwater lighting.. <BR> <BR>All I see pictures of them on boats sitting on trailers which is totally pointless.. <BR> <BR>I want to see how they actually light up the water! <BR> <BR>It's a nice option for $500ish but only if it works! <BR> <BR>If it is anything like the products on this website than I am totally for it 100% <BR><a href="http://www.oceanled.com" target="_blank">www.oceanled.com</a> <BR> <BR>Pic for views <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/546705.jpg" alt="Upload">

02-17-2008 4:26 PM

<a href="http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13269&amp;page=1" target="_blank">http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13269&amp;page=1</a>

gti2lo 02-17-2008 5:21 PM

Yes saw that post, but like I stated.... <BR> <BR> <BR>Not one if a Mastercraft with their new 08 LED lighting.. <BR> <BR> <BR>I know I can buy some LED and install myself.. was asking about the OEM option.

auwakeboarder 02-17-2008 5:54 PM

This is 1 of the LED units, white in color, not the blue that is used from the factory. <BR>It is the same make and model just different color. <BR> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/546748.jpg" alt="Upload">

2007_x2 02-18-2008 4:44 PM

<a href="http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=1520" target="_blank">http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=1520</a>

wakeboardnut 02-18-2008 9:41 PM

<a href="http://www.abysslite.com/" target="_blank">http://www.abysslite.com/</a> <BR> <BR>ill be using there product when i build my Malibu.

bill_airjunky 02-18-2008 10:47 PM

Hey Chase, <BR>Why the Abyss lights over the stock Malibus? Have you seen the new ones in 2008?

2007_x2 02-18-2008 10:59 PM

I just had Team Neptunes put a bunch of LEDs under my platform, i pick it up this week, ill post pics.

bill_airjunky 02-18-2008 11:14 PM

Looks like they have one posted here. Looks pretty bright out of the water. <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.teamneptunes.com/galleries/cpg133/albums/userpics/10001/light%20rings%20001.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.teamneptunes.com/galleries/cpg133/albums/userpics/10001/light%20rings%20001.jpg</a>

tj_in_kc 02-19-2008 7:26 AM

bill - are those mounted to your swimplatform or thru hull? <BR> <BR>i would love to get some lights for my new Malibu, but it would never be worth cutting holes in the transom for in my opinion.... <BR> <BR>if you've found something that can be mounted on the transom or swimplatform that would be awesome! <BR> <BR>let me know...

gti2lo 02-19-2008 3:43 PM

So no one actually has a real life pic of the Mastercraft OEM option? <BR> <BR>I am aware I can do myself... though may need a few beers to get courage to drill a hole through the transom on a new boat!

2007_x2 02-19-2008 3:52 PM

tj those LED's on the malibu are on the swimplatform not in the transom. i pick my boat up tomorrow night so ill post some pics on here. also u can contact Jim at Team Neptunes at 209 466 8863 he can answer all of ur ?'s <a href="http://www.teamneptunes.com" target="_blank">www.teamneptunes.com</a>

bill_airjunky 02-19-2008 4:29 PM

Yea, I believe that pic is of the LEDs mounted to the swimstep, TJ. It is a pic they have on their website. <BR> <BR>I purchased the 2008 Malibu LEDs from my dealer a couple weeks ago. These are installed just below the waterline in the transom with the wiring inside the boat. Our lake is still frozen solid so I haven't had a chance to get the boat out &amp; get the LEDs mounted. 6 little holes, 4 screws &amp; some silicon, wire them up &amp; they will be done. Haven't decided if I will wire them to the existing interior LEDs or the stern light. <BR> <BR>Maybe I'll try &amp; get it done this weekend. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by bill_airjunky on February 19, 2008)

2007_x2 02-21-2008 1:43 PM

heres a pic of my under water LEDs just got finished yesterday! <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/548632.jpg" alt="Upload">

tj_in_kc 02-21-2008 4:10 PM

Mike that looks sick man. i can't wait till you post some pics of what it looks like in the water at night. <BR> <BR>so no holes below the waterline in your setup? that's baddd... <BR> <BR>also- i wonder if i could run these along the bottom of my dock? i feel okay drilling all the holes in the world into it....although drilling underwater might be a challenge. lol

mikeski 02-21-2008 5:19 PM

tj, <BR> <BR>No problems drilling underwater, been there with my dock. It's called a brace and bit, muscle power, the old fashion way. <BR> <BR>Mike, <BR>Those are above water, no doubt they will look good. <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/548705.jpg" alt="Upload">

mikeski 02-21-2008 5:24 PM

more <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/548710.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/548711.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/548712.jpg" alt="Upload">

gti2lo 02-21-2008 5:56 PM

Look good Mike! <BR> <BR>This is what I am after... <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-55.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-55.jpg</a> <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-355.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-355.jpg</a> <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-404.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-404.jpg</a>

grant_west 02-21-2008 6:18 PM

<a href="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/405184.html" target="_blank">http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/405184.html</a>

tj_in_kc 02-21-2008 6:33 PM

G - thats an awesome post. You don't have any pics of your setup in the water do you???

2007_x2 02-26-2008 1:31 AM

thanks guys ill see when i can get some pics on the water. oh by the way no holes were drilled in my boat at all.<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/wink.gif" border=0>

2007_x2 02-26-2008 1:33 AM

mikeski that looks awesome i hope mine looks that good on the water. <BR> <BR>Greg those are awesome i would go with those! might have to get those too.

my_malibu 02-27-2008 8:21 PM

mine <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/551436.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/551437.jpg" alt="Upload"> <BR> sorry no in water shoots yet

billy2603 02-28-2008 8:27 AM

Are you guys drilling through-hulls to get the power wire back in? If not, what is your method?

my_malibu 02-28-2008 9:18 AM

using the stud from the swim deck mount <BR>no hole in the boat

sidekicknicholas 02-28-2008 10:49 AM

do you have a pic of the wires using the swim deck stud... i've been wondering the best route to run the wirse... i was thinking in w/ rub rail through bilge or in throw blower hole

tj_in_kc 02-28-2008 10:56 AM

Nick - i believe what they mean is they just hook the power, positive and neg to the metal brackets of the swimplatform, one on each side and complete the circuit using the LEDs. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by tj_in_kc on February 28, 2008)

etakk7 02-28-2008 11:34 AM

what would be the power source in that scenario?

my_malibu 02-28-2008 12:26 PM

fused .5 amp 12v <BR> <BR>(Message edited by my_malibu on February 28, 2008)

bladeaustin 02-28-2008 12:53 PM

I am going to tackle this project,any advice before i start? Looks fairly uncomplicated.

trentj6930 02-28-2008 1:22 PM

Craig Glass, do you have some more photos of the project? I was looking more along the lines of how you ran the power to the platform leds? Looks like it should work really simple?

bmartin 02-28-2008 1:39 PM

Normally I am not into bling, but must say these LEDs look awesome in the water.

bjeremi 02-28-2008 1:45 PM

"Nick - i believe what they mean is they just hook the power, positive and neg to the metal brackets of the swimplatform, one on each side and complete the circuit using the LEDs." <BR> <BR>Could we get a little more info on this?

my_malibu 02-28-2008 2:28 PM

boat in storage right now no pics <BR>I placed a washer between the bolt and swim platform <BR>and soldered the leds to them <BR>did same inside the boat before the nut

my_malibu 02-28-2008 2:32 PM

p.s. remember to place a waterproof disconnect on the swim deck side if you want to remove the swim deck <IMG SRC="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0>

billy2603 02-29-2008 9:03 AM

That is genius by the way.

suckbuthavefun 02-29-2008 10:33 AM

Maybe a stupid question...Do these have their own power source built in? <BR> <BR>I don't understand how you can hook them up to the metal brackets and complete the ciruit. <BR> <BR>Tim

razzman 02-29-2008 10:57 AM

Platform + and - to the exterior platform brackets, one on each end. Interior wires running from your 12vdc circuit to the interior/transom platform bolts, + and - to same side as the exterior. When the platform is placed into the mount brackets it completes the circuit. This works because of two factors, fresh water is an electrical conductor and they are low voltage. A .5 amp fuse on the inside + wire protects the circuit.

my_malibu 02-29-2008 11:01 AM

correct <BR>just remember to encase the soldered joint in epoxy to water proof it

bcrider 02-29-2008 11:02 AM

For the people that don't understand the bolts that go through the hull to mount the swim platform. <BR> <BR>Now I just have to see if I can connect mine this way. I wanted to add the LED's to the swim platform last year but this year it is happening for sure.

bcrider 02-29-2008 11:06 AM

For the people that don't understand the bolts that go through the hull to mount the swim platform. <BR> <BR>Now I just have to see if I can connect mine this way. I wanted to add the LED's to the swim platform last year but this year it is happening for sure.

my_malibu 02-29-2008 11:24 AM

Dave just take your time making a nice waterproof string of leds <BR> I had to epoxy the backs and fronts of the leds <BR>just incase ( they are waterproof) <BR>and pay attention to where the wiring connents expoxy expoxy expoxy <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/552113.jpg" alt="Upload">

tj_in_kc 02-29-2008 11:34 AM

i think the hardest part is going to be attaching the LEDs to the actual platform. if you have a teak platform this will probably just be some small galvanized deck screws. it looks like thats what you used, right craig? <BR> <BR>Razzman, thanks for explaining it more i guess at first glance it might not be really clear what i meant. however, i don't think the fact that fresh water is an electrical conductor has anything to do with this one, does it? =)

razzman 02-29-2008 11:49 AM

Yeah it does actually help because unlike a normal electrical connector where you have a 100% positive connection, using the platform brackets as the connector is not 100% positive so the water surrounding the joint actually helps a bit. <BR> <BR>Here's what i'm doing mine with shortly. <a href="http://www.oznium.com/square-channel" target="_blank">http://www.oznium.com/square-channel</a> These come in rolls and you just tell them how many lights you want (it's roughly two per foot) and they cut to length. That way you don't have to worry about soldering all the darn things together!

tj_in_kc 02-29-2008 12:12 PM

Nice find Razzman. Those are pretty low prices too...how many are you going to order? <BR> <BR>i also like the lights (Mikeski) is using above, would be interesting to compare the two in the water and see which one puts out more light. <BR> <BR>Tell me this craig, did you run the wires up to your accessory lights or NAV lights switch on the dash? i was thinking how clean that would be. might be simpler to just have a simple switch at the battery or in the sun lounge compartment though... <BR> <BR>anyone have thoughts on that part of it?

tj_in_kc 02-29-2008 12:17 PM

btw, Razzman i still think your conductivity argument is weak like the ukraine...haha freshwater is like 1500 µS/cm max, hardly a strong enough conductor to make a difference...now if we were talking saltwater...well thats a hell of a lot more conductive.

razzman 02-29-2008 12:22 PM

I think i'm going with 16 lights but have to pull the platform to be sure. <BR> <BR>I'm no engineer or waterologist ... i just know it works <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

my_malibu 02-29-2008 2:09 PM

all the leds run through the dash switch and fuse <BR>safety first<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

my_malibu 02-29-2008 2:11 PM

tj yes used screws and expoxy but witha teak deck I would make a channel with a rotor to place the wires and pods in then expoxy expoxy <BR> <BR>used the screws to hold while the expoxy set up <BR>then got lazy and decided to leave them in <BR> <BR>(Message edited by my_malibu on February 29, 2008)

my_malibu 02-29-2008 2:14 PM

Razzman hope you'll getting alot the superbright ones are 3 times as bright <BR>they also come in a string

razzman 02-29-2008 3:06 PM

Not sure what your saying here Craig but i assume your saying the superbright ones are pre-wired in one strand. So are the ones i posted a link to.

my_malibu 02-29-2008 5:42 PM

the point was that superbright ones are three times brighter than the oznium

my_malibu 02-29-2008 5:44 PM

used stainless steel screws also<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/yawn.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR>(Message edited by my_malibu on February 29, 2008)

razzman 02-29-2008 5:52 PM

0The problem with the superbright ones is that the wires exit each module at the top making it much harder to design and implement a clean install. The Oznium units have the wires exiting the base allowing you to recess them and make a real clean install.

my_malibu 02-29-2008 6:02 PM

are you saying mine install is not clean????<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/crazy.gif" border=0>

razzman 02-29-2008 7:19 PM

Never entered my mind <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/biggrin.gif" border=0> I'm doing mine similar to "G"'s where i'm recessing them into pieces of teak and wires at the top won't work in that application.

my_malibu 02-29-2008 7:57 PM

Cool in my application recessing was not a option <BR>pics when done

mallardhunter83 03-21-2008 7:47 AM

Just bough 4 s600b abyss lights from a lady on ebay, should get them in this afternoon. she had a few more pair for sale and was selling them for about 75 dollars for a pair!!!!! <BR>She has some on ebay right now if anyone interested

tj_in_kc 03-21-2008 8:26 AM

Daniel - let us know how your install goes, i think i'm going to do this as soon as i get my boat outta storage. you have teak or fiberglass platform?? post some pics keep us in the loop!

reconabe 03-21-2008 9:09 AM

I have always wondered if those swim deck lights bring up any huge monsters from the deep<img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/lol.gif" border=0>


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